6th Generation Coming in 2022?

Curious what will happen to new BOF SUV and engine development now that Ketchup Boy is the new Climate Czar and GM just dropped out of the lawsuit against California.

Toyota seemed to be stalling development, but they still seem insistent on suing Cali for our kooky emissions standards.

I dont know why anyone would buy a GM product anymore.
 
I trudged through this whiney thread and I hope the Toyota engineers and execs have a more positive outlook than this group!
 
I actually hope they don't change the look of it too much - I just got a brand new 2021 TRD Off Rd Prem! Wanna to remain "cutting edge" for a few years, at least!! Lol!
 
I'm very interested to see if/what will come out in '22. I bought my 5th in Nov of '09 and have been debating on replacing it. I almost pulled the trigger at the end of last year but I was extremely hard to spend that much money for an infotainment center and a different gauge cluster. Yes, there are a few other minor changes here and there but basically they have not made enough changes/improvement to make me want to upgrade...although the '21's did make the most tempting jumps.

We have plenty of time to guess and speculate without a doubt. I am holding onto this one until a new Gen is released.
 
I'd say update the internals and work on better crash tests, updated interior and such but keep the 4Runner looking very similar to what it looks like now. Also eventually they'll have to do some sort of update to the powertrain since the V6 with the 5 speed transmission is getting old.

BMWs, Ford F-150s, Chevy Silverado's, etc...have had the same basic looks forever, so 4Runners can too.
 
I have a feeling there may be a hybrid model come out in 2023. Just glad they got rid of the ugly infotainment that they had since the 2000's.

That said, I am not a fan if they came out with a hybrid model. I genuinely wish there was a fully electric model since the markets are shifting. Toyota is just very slow at changing. with the 2035 California law being signed, I hope there is a fully electric version in the next ten years that way Toyota can grab some of the market share in the suv segment.

GM already has an all electric hummer, so i hope other companies start rolling out electric versions later. It would solve 4runners dreaded mileage problem and be a win win.

And if people complain about range anxiety on electric cars , please. Most people arent going 300 miles a day and charge at home anyways. The world is going to shift to electric in the next 15 years so this will be the last gas version 4runner Toyota will make when it is released in the next few years.
 
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I am in the market right now and just cannot fully commit to a new 2021 4Runner. Ive had my 4th Gen since it was new in 2005 and with the ancient Trans and Engine they are still using it makes it hard to justify buying another when there are so many more capable transmission and engine combos.

Ya I get that its been working all these years but its showing its age. The body design of the 4runner is looking long in the tooth also. To me they need to look at what was done with the Bronco and possibly style the new 4runner similar to the fj's or old school land cruisers but with a more modern feel. That would be a winner if you coupled it with a new trans and engine. Make it a truly stock capable off-roader built to last 300K miles. THEN they will smoke the Bronco and take a huge dent out of Jeep sales.
 
I really appreciate the simplicity of the 4Runner, just purchased a 2020 TRDP for the wife (aka Me) for a price I can live with.

She only drive local, and I drive a Tesla for commuting but need a vehicle for trips and off-roading.

The mods are endless for these vehicle, and with basic maintenance will reward you with a great ownership experience.

Besides Dodge, most automakers are going less displacement with turbo's.

The fact that 4Runners are basically the last true 4x4 truck based SUV you can buy, those damn salespeople may be right. They told me these would be collectors items. (Ha Ha Ha)

Seriously, I dig the vibe, the community and love how raw these trucks are. I'm all in!!
 
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I am in the market right now and just cannot fully commit to a new 2021 4Runner. Ive had my 4th Gen since it was new in 2005 and with the ancient Trans and Engine they are still using it makes it hard to justify buying another when there are so many more capable transmission and engine combos.

Ya I get that its been working all these years but its showing its age. The body design of the 4runner is looking long in the tooth also. To me they need to look at what was done with the Bronco and possibly style the new 4runner similar to the fj's or old school land cruisers but with a more modern feel. That would be a winner if you coupled it with a new trans and engine. Make it a truly stock capable off-roader built to last 300K miles. THEN they will smoke the Bronco and take a huge dent out of Jeep sales.

Completely disagree. IMO, the new body styles that Ford, GM, etc. are rolling out are all inferior to their predecessors. The core appeal of the 4Runner is resistance to automotive trends.
 
Completely disagree. IMO, the new body styles that Ford, GM, etc. are rolling out are all inferior to their predecessors. The core appeal of the 4Runner is resistance to automotive trends.

Well I respect your opinion. I’m actually negotiating on a 2021 Limited 4x4 right now so I’ll be sticking with the 4runner.
 
I have a feeling there may be a hybrid model come out in 2023. Just glad they got rid of the ugly infotainment that they had since the 2000's.

That said, I am not a fan if they came out with a hybrid model. I genuinely wish there was a fully electric model since the markets are shifting. Toyota is just very slow at changing. with the 2035 California law being signed, I hope there is a fully electric version in the next ten years that way Toyota can grab some of the market share in the suv segment.

GM already has an all electric hummer, so i hope other companies start rolling out electric versions later. It would solve 4runners dreaded mileage problem and be a win win.

And if people complain about range anxiety on electric cars , please. Most people arent going 300 miles a day and charge at home anyways. The world is going to shift to electric in the next 15 years so this will be the last gas version 4runner Toyota will make when it is released in the next few years.

yeah an electric vehicle that you have to charge up every 400 miles. You get to spend an hour plus in a rest area, 3-4 times a day while traveling, with the other sexual deviants staring at the people in the mens rooms while waiting for your craptiastic EV to charge up.

Limiting travel is a Liberal douchebags wet dream. Next they will be telling you you cant own your own home.
 
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yeah an electric vehicle that you have to charge up every 400 miles. You get to spend an hour plus in a rest area, 3-4 times a day while traveling, with the other sexual deviants staring at the people in the mens rooms while waiting for your craptiastic EV to charge up.

Limiting travel is a Liberal douchebags wet dream. Next they will be telling you you cant own your own home.

Just to clarify, when you said "you get to spend an hour...with the other sexual deviants," did you mean to include yourself? Also, it seems like you have the perception that EV charging stations are attached to run-down rest areas (presumably, filled with horny truckers from the 1980s) when in reality, most are strategically placed near busy shops and restaurants giving you the freedom to select a bathroom that helps you feel the most comfortable.
 
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Just to clarify, when you said "you get to spend an hour...with the other sexual deviants," did you mean to include yourself? Also, it seems like you have the perception that EV charging stations are attached to run-down rest areas (presumably, filled with horny truckers from the 1980s) when in reality, most are strategically placed near busy shops and restaurants giving you the freedom to select a bathroom that helps you feel the most comfortable.

I don't and will not own an EV.

You seem to know a lot about rest areas. That's weird.

I dont think rest areas are run down especially if they have new EV charging stations. One in particular was in Massachusetts, where there were many Teslas parked was nearly brand new. I still would not want to spend hours in the place because of crap technology and some Liberal telling me the sky is falling and the only way to prevent it is to buy an EV or stay at home.
 
If Toyota's hints are accurate - the solid state batteries will charge enough for around 300 miles in 10 minutes. That's starting to be a pretty compelling option. I can easily fit 10 minute stops every 2-3 hours into my trips. As long as there are enough charging options where we need them. That will come.

I'd buy a 4Runner prime tomorrow if they would build one. 40 miles of EV range that I charge at home. That would cover all of my local driving without ever having to go to the gas station for normal use. It would save about half of my maintenance costs - oil changes would then be more like 20,000 mile intervals. And it would give more range in the field and I could still just buy gas for long distance trips. Plus EV drive would be ideally suited for offroad power. Great torque at low speeds. Exceptionally controllable. And the ability to power camp with the onboard battery/generator system. It's an overlanding dream vehicle.

If toyota makes a non-hybrid version of the next gen 4Runner, I think we can all pretty well count on it being the last non-electrified 4Runner. The 7th gen if it exists will almost certainly be pure BEV.
 
If Toyota's hints are accurate - the solid state batteries will charge enough for around 300 miles in 10 minutes. That's starting to be a pretty compelling option. I can easily fit 10 minute stops every 2-3 hours into my trips. As long as there are enough charging options where we need them. That will come.

I'd buy a 4Runner prime tomorrow if they would build one. 40 miles of EV range that I charge at home. That would cover all of my local driving without ever having to go to the gas station for normal use. It would save about half of my maintenance costs - oil changes would then be more like 20,000 mile intervals. And it would give more range in the field and I could still just buy gas for long distance trips. Plus EV drive would be ideally suited for offroad power. Great torque at low speeds. Exceptionally controllable. And the ability to power camp with the onboard battery/generator system. It's an overlanding dream vehicle.

If toyota makes a non-hybrid version of the next gen 4Runner, I think we can all pretty well count on it being the last non-electrified 4Runner. The 7th gen if it exists will almost certainly be pure BEV.


Please tell us who is your personal contact at Toyota. I’m sure with all of this inside information many oauto companies would have recruited you as a “consultant” and you would be able to live the highlife by now.
 

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