I wish the engineers at Toyota would approach hybrid systems the way the Germans do. They look at hybridization as a performance enhancement over a pure efficiency enhancement. The engineers at Toyota look at it from the opposite point of view and it really shows in the performance figures. The Japanese seem to not understand the U.S. market as well as the Germans from a performance perspective. Now, I will almost always opt for a Japanese built vehicle over German engineering from a reliability and longevity perspective, but I’m always left wanting more from the engine in most Japanese vehicles unfortunately.
6th Generation Coming in 2022?
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BlackWorksInc
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Toyota has gotten so disorganized and confused in the last decade or two, it's really a mess and that's before Toyota Japan "communicates" (if you can even call it that" with Toyota US.
The head of Toyota is so against EVs because Elon Musk screw them on their partnership he's tripling down on hybrid tech out of spite and pettiness rather than seriously working on Toyota EVs that aren't Hydrogen powered. It's very ridiculous. Hell, you can tell they don't care about performance because the last two "Performance Toyotas" were outsourced to other companies wholesale and had a Toyota badge slapped on them.
It's a shame, but I don't think the 4Runner is going to last much longer in the way we knew it as. I have a feeling that the 6th gen is going to be more Bloated Rav4 Hybrid and less of a modern off-roader.
Completely agree unfortunately. I’m going to wait and see what they come out with, but I have a feeling I’m going to be buying a new Ford Bronco instead.
6th Gen with a real roof
I like everything I see about the new Bronco except the Roof/Doors.
Not really interested in a loud, leaky, dusty SUV.
Taking the car apart is great for cruising the mall or heading to the neighborhood pool.
Don't really want it off road.
I always thought a plus for the 4Runner was clean, dry and warm while Jeeps and SxS on the trail were a mess.
Maybe I'm just not cool enough.
I like everything I see about the new Bronco except the Roof/Doors.
Not really interested in a loud, leaky, dusty SUV.
Taking the car apart is great for cruising the mall or heading to the neighborhood pool.
Don't really want it off road.
I always thought a plus for the 4Runner was clean, dry and warm while Jeeps and SxS on the trail were a mess.
Maybe I'm just not cool enough.
Yeah, I live in the desert and I can't even open the back window for 5 seconds on a trail. The dust here is EXTREME. Yet, Wranglers are insanely popular here and I see people with the doors removed every day parked at the grocery store and driving around town. There is NO WAY any of these people get off road like that. I see tons of wranglers out on the trails and NEVER see one with the roof or doors removed. It's a useless gimmick for me.
BlackWorksInc
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BruH! You don't want to look like you just stepped off the set of the newest, hottest MadMax movie?
Step up your game! :becky:
mteolus
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"Expert" timeline for all Toyota truck refreshes here. Go to 38:00. 4Runner summer 2022 and Lexus GX 6 months after that. Tacoma is in 2023. Tacoma no longer being made in San Antonio, will all be made in Mexico where some of them are already being made. No Land Cruiser for the U.S., will be the Lexus LX only.
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sn_85
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Conversely I've driven my moms RX350 with the same 3.5L atkinson engine paired with an 8spd and it is buttery smooth. No gear hunting and it shifts as it should. Curb weight of an RX350 is very similar to that of a 3rd gen Tacoma as well. I get that they are tuned differently but it makes you wonder if they had given the Tacoma the same powertrain combo how much better it would drive.
mteolus
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Yea, bummer. Perhaps it will still be made in Japan. Who knows. Price should be interesting too. 50+?
Sat in a couple Broncos today
Sat in, climbed on/under a couple of 2021 Broncos at an event today.. no driving.
Pretty nice truck.
Hope the 6th Gen team has seen what they have to beat.
4-door, Black Diamond, Antimatter Blue, Sasquatch, Mid Package
4-door, Badlands, Iconic Silver, Lux Package
I'm in no hurry to switch, will wait and see how reliability shakes out.
But great to see legit body on frame vehicles still being developed.
Stock 35's... sway bar disconnects... 4.70 diff... modern tech/interior... modular everything...
What can you bring us Toyota?
Sat in, climbed on/under a couple of 2021 Broncos at an event today.. no driving.
Pretty nice truck.
Hope the 6th Gen team has seen what they have to beat.
4-door, Black Diamond, Antimatter Blue, Sasquatch, Mid Package
4-door, Badlands, Iconic Silver, Lux Package
I'm in no hurry to switch, will wait and see how reliability shakes out.
But great to see legit body on frame vehicles still being developed.
Stock 35's... sway bar disconnects... 4.70 diff... modern tech/interior... modular everything...
What can you bring us Toyota?
Vwright14
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You sat in the same ones I did making the rounds to dealerships lol
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Roccoeight
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I don't care if they ever have a 6th gen, I take a 2019 5th gen any day
Amen to that I love my 2019 4-Runner. I am on my third 4-Runner.
My 2021 is on the boat from Japan as I type. I ordered it to get one. Can't wait. Wife has 2019 GX 460 and we love all of the outdated, but extremely dependable stuff!
My 2021 is scheduled to be built on May 20th, then a boat ride over...then in my garage!! YES!!! Been a Land Cruiser or 4Runner owner since 1986! FIRST brand new one!!
Baystate4Runner
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Congrats on getting your new 4Runners...mine is scheduled to arrive June 10th by boat in California.
But why post this in the 6th generation section? MY2021 and the following MY2022 are still 5th generation 4Runners.
Yeah, makes no sense, but several people were posting in here about getting new 5th Gens. So I got totally excited, lost my $hit, and posted too!!
