870 issues

[Supra725]

over the weekend,

I took my 870 express out for some fun..

but after a few rounds, my mates tried it and the whole barrel flew off..

so i picked put the barrel, mag tube extended and the barrel clamp.. tightened everything down..

guess what, after 1st shot.. it happened again..

has anyone had this happened to their 870's before?

is under the davidsons warranty, should i sent an email to them first or to Remington?

cause this is unacceptable.. my mate's h&r had no issues but mine did..

I'm starting to have doubts in Remington's products.

 

[RandyDaytona]

over the weekend,

I took my 870 express out for some fun..

but after a few rounds, my mates tried it and the whole barrel flew off..

so i picked put the barrel, mag tube extended and the barrel clamp.. tightened everything down..

guess what, after 1st shot.. it happened again..

has anyone had this happened to their 870's before?

is under the davidsons warranty, should i sent an email to them first or to Remington?

cause this is unacceptable.. my mate's h&r had no issues but mine did..

I'm starting to have doubts in Remington's products.

If the magazine cap is good to go, it sounds like your locking lug is not locking when it's in the forward/firing position - the gun will still fire, but there's nothing to secure the bolt.

There are ways to fix this, such as "polishing" (aka grinding) the sides so that it drops, but if it's under warranty, I'd send it back and let Remington replace it. Whatever you do, I wouldn't fire it any more (obviously).

I'm a Remington armorer. Unlike most weapon manufacturers, they actually machine the vast majority of their parts in-house, many from solid blocks of steel, so I wouldn't give up on them just yet. The 870 is one of the most tried and true shotguns ever made. I own a newer 870 Tactical and have a 20-year-old 870 that's issued to me by my employer. The latter spends the majority of the time riding around in the truck rack on mostly dirt roads, with dirt and moisture attacking it constantly (I like having my windows down). I'm somewhat embarrassed to say it also doesn't get cleaned as regularly as it should, with range days, training, putting down animals, etc., causing it to go long periods uncleaned, with just a squirt of oil on the action. Yet after literally thousands of rounds (all either slugs or 00 buck), the only thing I've ever replaced was the magazine follower, and that only because I upgraded from the old black follower to the newer orange one.

There are certainly some shotguns that are fancier, but I liken the 870 to a Toyota Corolla: no frills, but reliable.

Well, in your case - usually reliable. Sounds like you just got a bad one, which does happen when you make a 100,000 guns a year.

 

[Ark03]

Unlike most weapon manufacturers, they actually machine the vast majority of their parts in-house, many from solid blocks of steel, so I wouldn't give up on them just yet. The 870 is one of the most tried and true shotguns ever made. I own a newer 870 Tactical and have a 20-year-old 870 that's issued to me by my employer.

The 20-year-old 870's are actually a much better quality than the stuff coming off the line at Remington today. My buddy has a new 870 Express that has been back to Remington twice, and its still not ejecting shells. They're about to give him a new barrel.

That being said, I was the one who recommended he get an 870, and I couldn't believe he was having the trouble he was having. I thought it was the cheap aluminum cased ammo he was using that was expanding too much in the chamber. However, this weekend he used Remington Heavy Dove loads (1 1/4 oz), and was still having trouble.

My dad is a gunsmith who sees this more and more on the newer 870's, and he's stopped working on them - he sends them all back to Remington, who eventually rechambers them or gives them new barrels. I think their tolerances aren't as tight as they used to be, and the more people send back the better. Make Remington fix them and maybe they'll get their quality back up there.

 

[Supra725]

Needless to say, I was very disappointed with me. .

I had the ejector broke on me once and was sent back to repair..

now with this, I'm going to have it sent back again. .

How can an brand new 870 has this much problems?

my mates' asian clone 870 has less problems than mine.. he was doing 00 buck, slugs out of his all day with no issues what so ever..

Randy, I wish you were closer.. the closest armor to me is like 100 miles.. err

 

[BlackWorksInc]

That's a shame, I have a UTS-15 myself (its actually been fairly problem free beside one or two minor issues; not to get into it too much, but the internet hate wagon was/is fairly thick with misinformation and misrepresentation) but I had originally considered a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870.

I wonder why the quality seems to be slipping, I sort of understand why the UTS-15 had teething issues (its a newer, different design mechanically than designs that have been tried and tested for over a century), but something like an 870 should be like the OP stated, like a Toyota Corolla... no frills, but reliable to the end and beyond.

I say send it back, I try not to fault a company too much for mistakes if they are willing and quick with good customer service (not trying to sell you on UTAS, but every issue I had with my weapon was promptly and well taken care of by a company that was looking out for its customers, which in my book was a bit brownie point and makes me more confident in my investment of a new weapon design/platform.)

 

[Supra725]

you think so when it comes to shotgun.. the 1st thought would be either an mossberg 500 or an remington 870..

but with mine, is just be problems after problems.. it had cycle issues with regular federal bird shot..

I had sent it back to them before but it took them a while to ship it back.. not to mention, I had to go through another background check even though it was my gun already..

hopefully when I get it repaired, I'm going to get rid of it for an Benelli m2.. cause how can I use my 870 for home defense when it can't hold itself together..

 

[RandyDaytona]

The 20-year-old 870's are actually a much better quality than the stuff coming off the line at Remington today. My buddy has a new 870 Express that has been back to Remington twice, and its still not ejecting shells. They're about to give him a new barrel.

That being said, I was the one who recommended he get an 870, and I couldn't believe he was having the trouble he was having. I thought it was the cheap aluminum cased ammo he was using that was expanding too much in the chamber. However, this weekend he used Remington Heavy Dove loads (1 1/4 oz), and was still having trouble.

My dad is a gunsmith who sees this more and more on the newer 870's, and he's stopped working on them - he sends them all back to Remington, who eventually rechambers them or gives them new barrels. I think their tolerances aren't as tight as they used to be, and the more people send back the better. Make Remington fix them and maybe they'll get their quality back up there.

Unfortunately, I think that's the case with most manufacturers who've been in business that long, as well as some of the newer ones. Despite what I said about Remington doing stuff in-house, I think they're probably still cutting some corners. I'm also a Sig and Colt armorer. The Sigs that our new guys are getting have a lot of issues, but my 20-year-old 229 is still going strong. Can't complain much about Colt, though, as they seem to still be up to snuff (so far) - maybe because they're making guns to military standards. Not sure.

 

[Ark03]

Can't complain much about Colt, though, as they seem to still be up to snuff (so far) - maybe because they're making guns to military standards. Not sure.

Colt has started cutting corners and going cheap too - have you noticed the mainspring housing on the new 1911's is plastic, along with several plastic parts on the 1991A1/A2?

 

[Matteblack]

I'd send it to Remington ASAP. Also, when you get it back a recommendation would be to replace the Express MIM extractor with the police extractor, also replace the sear spring, magazine spring, and trigger group with the "Police" versions. They are more robust. An easy way is to simply buy only Police models, but since you have an Express, no big deal just drop in police parts and you are good to go.

With these mods and the repair from Remington your 870 should be an absolute workhorse, accept nothing less. Good luck.

MB

 

[Supra725]

my 5 years old sig haven't had that much issues since i had it..

I'm waiting for an reply from Remington and see what to do.. i.e. take it back to my dealer or ship it back to Remington..