A dinosaur still roams the Earth.

[HeartGuy]

Problem is Toyota CHARGES blind spot monitor, parking assist, lane guidance prices, but doesn't actually include them.

The plastic in the 4runners is junk, look at the plastics in volvo's from 10 years ago. When it scuffs it just looks like normal wear, whereas in the 4Runner if you scuff their dark gray plastic it turns blue.

Don't get me wrong here, I realize that the price of a 4Runner is steep for "what you get". I kinda value not having all of the added stuff and educated myself enough to make what I considered an informed purchase.

Also, i'm not sure how applicable your argument for the Volvo is but I am also not too interested in comparing every auto manufacturers materials choices. To me, scratched interior pieces look like shit no matter how you perceive their level of post-damage beauty.

 

[T4R2014]

The 5-speed is pitiful honestly, but I'll choose the reliability of it over something new and unproven. The interior definitely looks dated. If you don't see it then you aren't in enough new cars. Even with all these downsides, it's still a new vehicle I actually like. It's honest.

With that said, the pre-facelift 5th gens(excluding the TE) hasn't aged well. Those side skirts are disgusting. There's a reason the facelift improved sales.

 

[LawnDart]

The 5-speed is pitiful honestly, but I'll choose the reliability of it over something new and unproven. The interior definitely looks dated. If you don't see it then you aren't in enough new cars. Even with all these downsides, it's still a new vehicle I actually like. It's honest.

With that said, the pre-facelift 5th gens(excluding the TE) hasn't aged well. Those side skirts are disgusting. There's a reason the facelift improved sales.

I think if the 5th gen kept getting additions and features, it'd be a no brainer. When the 2015 is the absolutely same thing as the 2018, you know things have gotten stagnant.

Even if the 2018 got a better digital gauge cluster like the Tacoma it'd be a nice touch given the costs.

 

[progress4m]

.... Then again, not really anything like it out there.

100% agree!

 

[5ontheFloor]

Uh. Wut?

Must be an option on upcoming gen

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[e60ral]

It's really the only vehicle in it's class, I mean look at the vehicles they compared it to. Toyota doesn't have to add features or innovations because they aren't competing with anyone. If they make the 4runner too nice it will just cut into their Highlander sales.

The tone in the review is basically that for a rugged basic body on frame solid rear axle SUV it's fine, but don't ask it to be more than that. I think that's fair, and I also think that's fine. This is the first vehicle I haven't pampered, the first vehicle I don't obsess about getting dirt inside or scratches, etc... That's not because i think it's a soulless appliance car, but because I think it's utilitarian and serves a purpose.

 

[SacStateHornets]

Alex Jones, is that you?!

Reference to me?
Perhaps, don't know who Alex Jones is as I don't pander to the media. I use my own brain to reach conclusions for me.


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[Throwback]

The 5-speed is pitiful honestly, but I'll choose the reliability of it over something new and unproven. The interior definitely looks dated. If you don't see it then you aren't in enough new cars. Even with all these downsides, it's still a new vehicle I actually like. It's honest.

With that said, the pre-facelift 5th gens(excluding the TE) hasn't aged well. Those side skirts are disgusting. There's a reason the facelift improved sales.

Agreed. The Toyota reliability was a huge factor in my decision to buy.

I don't mind the simple/caveman amenities at all. My only beef with the current Tacoma and 4Runner is the lack of fuel efficiency. However, even if Toyota came to market tomorrow with a Turbo I4 and 8AT I would still be drawn to the historical durability of the 4.0 V6 and 5AT combo.

 

[SacStateHornets]

C&D review

Every mainstream publication hates the Jeep Wrangler. After owning 25+ new vehicles in my life it has been the most enjoyable. 4Runner is similar, keep it simple and utilitarian, it is a tool, not a flash bang, look at me vehicle. It does what it does best.....timeless style and performance.

Half the monthly C&D magazine are Weathertech ads.


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[Cymon]

The review was accurate. We all know why we bought this "Swiss Army Knife" of an SUV. By the way don't all kids love Dinosaurs?

 

[Throwback]

I actually cross-shopped the 4Runner and Subaru Outback.

My needs were:
- Four wheel drive for weekend recreation in the mountains as well as all-season drive-ability.
- Cargo room for dog crates and luggage for trips.
- Good highway manners for work highway travel.

The Outback won out in MPG. The 4Runner won out in daily driving enjoyment and Toyota reliability.

I just knew that I would never get excited to go for a drive in the Subaru. So, on paper the 4Runner doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it brings a lot of intangible happiness to the table.

The same thing exists in the motorcycle world. The one bike that I kept the shortest amount of time was the one that checked all the boxes in the reviews. It was just so smooth, efficient, and low-maintenance that it didn't beckon to be ridden.

 

[mbumpus11]

I have yet to have anyone get inside my 2015 TEP for the first time and NOT say, "wow this is nice!"

I get C&D's review, I really do. But like many others have posted the 4Runner is in a class of its own. The others they compared it to were crossovers (except the Jeep).

Also - the Durango GT was the only vehicle that accelerated faster than the 4Runner...and those were all crossovers?!

These types of reviews just make me more proud to be an owner because it tells me that the people who buy this vehicle are the people who actually WANT the vehicle.

 

[SacStateHornets]

I actually cross-shopped the 4Runner and Subaru Outback.



My needs were:

- Four wheel drive for weekend recreation in the mountains as well as all-season drive-ability.

- Cargo room for dog crates and luggage for trips.

- Good highway manners for work highway travel.



The Outback won out in MPG. The 4Runner won out in daily driving enjoyment and Toyota reliability.



I just knew that I would never get excited to go for a drive in the Subaru. So, on paper the 4Runner doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it brings a lot of intangible happiness to the table.



The same thing exists in the motorcycle world. The one bike that I kept the shortest amount of time was the one that checked all the boxes in the reviews. It was just so smooth, efficient, and low-maintenance that it didn't beckon to be ridden.

Subaru=CVT, I wrote all Subaru's off because of this. Our old Forester with 4spd auto hit over 220,000 miles, don't expect new ones to do even 60,000 with that rubber band tranny.


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[scanny]

Review is sort of accurate, but it missed the main point in my opinion. It's off-road capability and reliability. Comparing 4Runner with Jeep Wrangler is fair, but comparing it to Ford Edge is just funny.

 

[LawnDart]

Does anyone think you're going to go on a forum, FOR 4Runners, and have people make critical self analysis about the short comings of their platform of choice?

You'd have to fight through metric tons of confirmation bias. Of course people's reaction is gonna be "nuh uh!"

 

[Cymon]

I actually cross-shopped the 4Runner and Subaru Outback.

My needs were:
- Four wheel drive for weekend recreation in the mountains as well as all-season drive-ability.
- Cargo room for dog crates and luggage for trips.
- Good highway manners for work highway travel.

The Outback won out in MPG. The 4Runner won out in daily driving enjoyment and Toyota reliability.

I just knew that I would never get excited to go for a drive in the Subaru. So, on paper the 4Runner doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it brings a lot of intangible happiness to the table.

I think a lot of people look at both. I know we did. The Outback won out in 2012 because of the gas prices in California. I finally got my 4runner 3 years later, now we are lucky enough to have both in our driveway.

 

[Cymon]

Subaru=CVT, I wrote all Subaru's off because of this. Our old Forester with 4spd auto hit over 220,000 miles, don't expect new ones to do even 60,000 with that rubber band tranny.


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As I just posted, we have a 2012 CVT with 90k, two cross-country trips, plenty of Sierra Nevada Mt. Miles in snow and light off roading/exploring, and way too many miles sitting in Baltimore/DC metro, San Francisco Bay are metro and Miami metro traffic. The only issue we have had with it is a faulty rear window wiper mechanism that was covered under warranty.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Most people do not even know what a 4runner is. When I say I was someplace with my 4runner they think I am talking about my atv. They only know Highlander and Rav4. I have to explain a 4runner is also a Toyota suv. They know nothing about and do not care what body on frame is.

 

[manganos]

I bought the 4runner because I fly fish. Actually I fly fish A LOT and it requires me to go down roads and trails that require 4wd. I also looked at a new BMW X5 and X3. After test driving both and having a X3 for a rental while down in New Mexico my mind was made up! It was the 4runner. The low profile tires, the lack of a real transfer case couldn't make up for the misses of the 4runner.

 

[alphabeast]

I don't care what C&D says. I like it and it works for me.. done..