Accident/Insurance question

Net4n6

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My wife got in an accident on Monday. The other driver ran a red light and she didn't have driver license nor insurance. The police came took report and let us go. We have to work with our insurance now. Luckily, the police came (2hrs later) and got some information from the other party. I don't know what he got from her. The only information the police told us that other party didn't have driver license nor insurance. He gave us the case number.

I had the car towed to the dealer. Dealer estimate 18K to fix the damage. I looked on KBB. Retail estimated for my wife car is 23K. I don't know how the insurance will deal with this. If they claim the car total, what number do they base on to reimburse to us? Retail, Wholesale, or Private Party.
 
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That sucks! If you have full coverage, your insurance should give you an option for you to have it repaired @ $18K or total it (take the money and run). Most insurance companies would go by Retail.
 
That sucks! If you have full coverage, your insurance should give you an option for you to have it repaired @ $18K or total it (take the money and run). Most insurance companies would go by Retail.

It is hard for me to take 18K instead of the car. I bought it for my wife for her b-day (brand new). 04 Mercedes E320 (loaded). Almost 6 years and we only have 23K miles on it.
 
Most insurance companies will total a vehicle if the repair exceeds 70% of the vehicles retail value! It's also not common practice to give you the choice to fix it if they decide to total the vehicle! If your insurance ends up paying out they will more than likely use their lawyers and go after they other party without you being involved!
 
gap is the greatest thing on the face of the planet. our tacoma that got totalled on my birthday the gap just finished paying off. they kept telling us they'd fix the truck, even tho they would have to replace the whole frame. took them 2 weeks of dealing and talking to dealerships and us and the body shop pressuring them to total it to do it.

but yes, generally if its more than 60-70% of the vehicles value then they will total the vehicle.
 
If they declare it a total loss, you have the option to take the car back. I bought my previous vehicle back from the insurance company, the calculation was Bluebook minus scrap value, which was about a $800 difference. On my car it was cosmetic damage to the sheet metal and bumper, so it was completely drivable. The PITA is you have to get a brakes and lights inspection in CA before you can retitle it as a salvage.

What sucks about it, is your car is inoperable, so buying it back isn't really a viable option, unless you plan to part it out.
 
Did you get the GAP insurance when you bought it?

GAP mainly helps you if you're leasing or financing a vehicle, so you don't end up upside down due to the settlement being less than what you own on the loan.

GAP won't help if the vehicle is paid off.
 
GAP mainly helps you if you're leasing or financing a vehicle, so you don't end up upside down due to the settlement being less than what you own on the loan.

GAP won't help if the vehicle is paid off.
The car already paid off. I just wait to see how thing "fold out". I hope it resolved quickly and smoothly. These things just give me headace.
 
Just do your research on the vehicle and all of it's pricing information to include KBB and NADA as well as any ads for a similar vehicle in your area. The insurance company will use a third party to assess the vehicle's value and that will likely be less than what you're expecting. If you do decide to buy back the totaled vehicle then having the title is a major plus. Can you post pics?
 
the other party didn't have driver license nor insurance.

I had the car towed to the dealer. Dealer estimate 18K to fix the damage. I looked on KBB. Retail estimated for my wife car is 23K. I don't know how the insurance will deal with this. If they claim the car total, what number do they base on to reimburse to us? Retail, Wholesale, or Private Party.

Sorry to hear about this, I hope the Mrs. is ok.

In a total loss, you can negotiate on the payoff from the ins co. You will likely get low-balled. Considering yours is low mileage, I'd fight for as much $ as possible. Does your policy include a provision for uninsured/underinsured drivers?

I believe you also have the right to sue the other driver. As much as I'm not sue-happy some schit heads deserve it. My mother in law lost her husband to an unlicensed drunk driver... He now has a couple of years to think about what he did beside Bubba!
 
From some very recent experience, here's a few things to look for, consider, and address with your insurance company.

1. As stated earlier, the insurance co will have a 3rd party do the valuation of your vehicle. Review this valuation carefully for accuracy (more on that below)

2. Overall, if you are not happy with the valuation and settlement, tell them so and do not cash their check. The valuation and settlement amount is completely negotiable, so continue to work with them to get to a number you a happy with. Best to back it up with facts/data. Number 1 thing to remember is that they have to put you in an equivalent financial position as to prior to the accident, less your deductible.

3. The valuation will utilize comparison vehicles from the local area that are either currently advertised or 30 days old. Sometimes this makes it difficult to verify that these comparison vehicles are actually a good comparison.

4. Make sure the valuation captures ALL of the options that your vehicle had (ACCURACY FLAG). Best way to verify this is to call any dealership and ask for the build sheet for your vehicle. They will take your VIN# and print it right away. You would think the 3rd party would do similar, but they don't.

5. Make sure the valuation captures the right type of model of your vehicle (ACCURACY FLAG). You don't want them calling it an SR5 type when it was a Sport or Limited. Tough to get this wrong, but they do!

6. Make sure any after market additions to the vehicle are accounted for (ACCURACY FLAG). The 3rd party will not even look at this stuff - you have to take the initiative. Sometimes the Insurance Co will ask for receipts to those (like who keeps those), but sometimes pictures of the actual vehicle and weblinks to buying new components will suffice. Be prepared for the Insurance Co to depreciate those after market mods, of which is also negotiable.

7. A tough one to address is the actual mileage vs. the mileage of the comparison vehicles. Based on the comps, they will adjust up or down. Its hard to know their formula for doing this, so do the best you can to approximate whether the adjustment makes sense to your vehicle (ACCURACY FLAG). Here again, another area open for negotiation if it doesn't make sense to you.

8. Lastly, the toughest one to deal with is something called "baseline adjustment". IMO, this is where they make their money off you. Baseline adjustment means they will adjust the value of your vehicle DOWN. This is because it is being driven on a daily basis and therefore WORTH LESS than an equivalent vehicle that is sitting on a dealer lot all shiny and clean.

9. When negotiating, the Insurance Adjuster you work with will have some flexibility to change the valuation, but not a lot. Be cognizant there is a threshold where they need to get higher mgmt approval. (which sometimes pisses the adjuster off since they're operating on a scorecard as to how well they close claims and how close the come to the original valuation).

Hopefully this info helps you get a fair deal for your vehicle.
 
Cosmo, thanks for the great info.
I found out that my auto insurance will not cover medical for my wife. She have to use medical insurance to see the doctor. I realized that "Bodily Injury Liability" only cover for other party.
 
it would behoove you to pay attention to a thread in which you already posted. read the op's first sentence!

My brain fries on Mondays. :bash: I thought the police didn't have the other party's license and insurance information vs having no license nor insurance at all.
 
Thank you everyone for advice. The insurance company called me today and told me that they will total the car. As soon as my wife know that they "total" the car, she cried that I never saw her cried before.
 
You should go after the other party's ins co since he ran the red light.

He said the perp did not have insurance or a license - so unless the car belonged to someone else who was covered by insurance he's out of luck. Hope the perp spends some time in lockup. I'm getting real tired of irresponsible people.
 

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