Adding bumpers- lift and ride quality questions

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I have been reading all the suspension threads and FAQs. I understand that a lift will really help with all the aftermarket wheeling goodies on the 4R…help it not sink lower. I have read mainly about ICON, Bilstein, and OME. I don’t know which are the most durable and have not figured out the ride qualities of each either. That is mainly what I am here for.

Here are some thing I am thinking about doing to the 4R, since we plan on really exploring Colorado and Utah this year. I want to start by putting some bolt-on rock sliders. That is easy enough to do. The next step would be bumpers- front and rear. There lies the complication. My 4R does have a TRD FJ’s shocks, springs, and struts. However, the front and rear bumpers add a lot of weight and I am afraid it will lower the vehicle by an inch or so. That kills the clearance and my undercarriage eventually. I do love the ride now- way more than stock. The ride with the FJ suspension is firmer than stock but still complaint and well-controlled. I had some Old Man Emu shock/springs on my Pathfinder and it was a bit rough when the vehicle was empty. It was not as bad as other lifted SUVs I have been in though. Some of them were ridiculously stiff and did not absorb bumps and expansion joints well at on the roads and highways.

So what springs, struts, and shocks should I use to stay close to the feel I have now and not let it (especially an unloaded rear) become too stiff? I really detest that stiff truck-like ride. I don’t think I can use the FJ stuff I have on it now, right? I am thinking a 2”-3” lift will be more than enough. However, I am not sure I want to use a body lift. I will if there is good reason for it though my inexperienced-in-wheeling mind tells me there is no need for spacers.

Tires- I will deal with that later since my tires are pretty new. I will not upgrade that till these tires are worn out.

Thanks for any advice and help. I really want to do this right the first time, and not be constantly annoyed by an overly stiff ride after spending several thousand dollars.
 
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Pick your suspension based on the weight. If you know you're adding bumpers in the near future, the ome setup wouldn't be bad. If this will be slow and one thing at a time, I would advise you to get a coilover kit such as Overland Warehouse or Icon. You can adjust to compensate for the added weight as you get it and ride will be much better. They're expensive, but most likely cheaper in the long run.
 
I don't know much about the coilover kits but will start looking into the details of those. I can do the bumpers at one shot, but the adjustability feature is very interesting.
 
I don't know much about the coilover kits but will start looking into the details of those. I can do the bumpers at one shot, but the adjustability feature is very interesting.

Look into the Overland Warehouse kits. They are they only ones to my knowledge that designed the kit specifically for the 4runners. Most use a kit from the FJ, which fits, but isn't as good as something designed and valved for your vehicle. Plus, those guys are great to deal with.

I should mention that only the fronts are adjustable, the rears are not.

Overland Warehouse Suspensions Feedback thread - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum
 
Look into the Overland Warehouse kits. They are they only ones to my knowledge that designed the kit specifically for the 4runners. Most use a kit from the FJ, which fits, but isn't as good as something designed and valved for your vehicle. Plus, those guys are great to deal with.

I should mention that only the fronts are adjustable, the rears are not.

Overland Warehouse Suspensions Feedback thread - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

Not to bag on ARK I'm just saying since I own both a 4runner and fj, the suspension parts are 100% interchangeable.

Now valving that's a different story, most won't even notice the valving difference. Unless you run with and one without proper valving
 
Not to bag on ARK I'm just saying since I own both a 4runner and fj, the suspension parts are 100% interchangeable.

Now valving that's a different story, most won't even notice the valving difference. Unless you run with and one without proper valving

I completely agree. No problem swapping parts between the two, and the difference may not be noticeable. However, I just feel better knowing the amount of time in R&D that those guys put into these kits specifically for the 4th gen 4runner. No only do they sell these kits, they put them to the test on their personal vehicles as well. Although I don't have their kit, I've dealt with them several times and always had excellent service.Just all around a great package imo.
 
I know this might not help but, I have the ICON stage one 2.0 lift. WIth my bumper, winch, and lights I didnt need to adjust my shocks.
 
magert54: this is actually very useful info. I don't know that much about lifts and shocks so getting info from guys who have done different things...very helpful. I like like the FJ TRD ride so much that I am trying to make sure I don't go much stiffer after all is said and done.
 
I went with fairly stiff OME coils for the fronts in preparation for a shrockworks bumper... but I've begun to wonder if the added weight of the bumper (especially if I get a rear as well) will really bog down the V6.
 
Yea it will but sprung weight isn't as bad as unsprung weight. Seriously if you got rid of the wheel spacers and got light rims you would feel the difference
 

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