Need to replace the frame mounted bushings on both sides of my frame of my 2000 4R at the back. Wondering the easiest way to do so? I have taken off the nuts on 3 rear (of the 5 per side mounts). Jacked up under a sturdy section of the bumper. Am able to raise the body but I'm wondering if there are things I need to be concerned about? After raising it a few inches seems I still need a few more and don't want to stretch anything or snap anything. Figured doing one side at a time. Would seem maybe easier to be able to pull the long shafted bolt up from inside the cab but I'm thinking I would have to pull apart the interior carpet in order to do so making this an even bigger job...
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Twisted Sid
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You are far better off taking the edges of the carpet up to remove the bolts than to try and lift the body high enough to clear the bolts from the mounts. You will stretch or pull something if you don't.
phattyduck
Elite Member
It doesn't take much to pop up the sill trim and get access to all the bolts. Don't lift more than necessary to pull out the rubber portion of the mounts from the divot they sit in. Make sure both sides are loose, but only lift one side at a time. If you are putting on poly mounts, make sure they are greased.
Here's mine - you can see that you only need about 1" to 1.5" above the frame to do all the work. Any more and lots of things need to be disconnected:
-Charlie
brillo_76
Elite Member
I am curious if the 1 to 3 inch body lifts change the center of gravity much?
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JoeT4R
Senior Member
I've got a 1" body and haven't noticed DRASTIC changes in my center of gravity. I mean you can't take a corner above 20 to 25 miles an hour, but that's about it really. I'm happy with what I've got but I don't think I'd go higher than 1.5" if I were to do it over again.
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Rushthezeppelin
New member
I think the big things to worry about are the steering rag joint and the lines going back to the rear heater from what I've seen in the videos talking about body lifts. Maybe fuel and brakes lines too? Timmy the Toolman has a good video on it. I'm still surprised that my 270k 3rd gen the body mount bushings are still quite supple, was checking those yesterday when I was greasing the zirks.
Unfamiliar what a rag joint is? If my main objective is the 2 rear mounts, figuring on just unbolting the 3 of 5 per side towards back, hopefully the 2 fronts being bolted in should still be ok. Not fixing things that arent broke. Body lift makes sense if you are already in there but yes, considerations to cog are one.... The other - 1 inch? Really that much difference to warrant? I replaced shocks and springs a couple years ago thinking the clunking I was hearing was the bump stops. The additional lift was nice and that seems a better way to get more height if you are sagging. I cant see any benefit to lifting the body another inch? Thanks for the chimes on pulling up carpet, glad I asked and yall answered. Thank you so much!
I'm using these... What needs greased? Couldn't find rubber bushings. :-(
9.4102G Universal Polyurethane Body Mounts Bushings Isolators, Include 4 Plated Metal Washers, 2 Plated Metal Sleeves, 4 Body Mount Bushings(Black) https://a.co/d/8fYL3hZ
9.4102G Universal Polyurethane Body Mounts Bushings Isolators, Include 4 Plated Metal Washers, 2 Plated Metal Sleeves, 4 Body Mount Bushings(Black) https://a.co/d/8fYL3hZ
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brillo_76
Elite Member
Yes that one is done.
I do you rear two you are going to have to loosen the others so you can lift enough to change them..
sleepydad
Senior Member
I might be more worried about the mount and rust? that is kind of a lot of cancer? none of that stuff is coming off without fire and a lot of bacon.
you can still get a lot of the toyota body mounts
the big bolt 5221735030 BOLT, BODY MOUNTING
4 little bolts for the mount to frame 9164281025 BOLT, W/WASHER
5220935011 CUSHION SUB-ASSY, REAR END BODY MOUNTING, UPPER
9020110099 WASHER, PLATE
9418401001 NUT
frame parts
5170935030 BRACKET SUB-ASSY, BODY REAR END MOUNTING
5170635030 BRACKET SUB-ASSY, CAB MOUNTING, NO.3 LH
I would bet with a little digging you can find the frame brackets, but that will be some welding on the frame.
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octanejunkie
Elite Member
SameIt's not a hard job, and yes you need to pull back the carpets to get to the bolts. And you need the spacer for the rag joint. I did new body mounts the same time I did a one inch body lift, you know, since you are already in there...
In my opinion and experience, the one inch body lift helps not only with clearance issues, tires and suspension components, but keeps aftermarket bumpers at bay
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phattyduck
Elite Member
Universal definitely is not the right choice here. You can get the rear body mount by itself in a direct-fit application... Or a full set of poly mounts.
Grease wherever metal touches poly or poly touches poly.
-Charlie
coffeeking
Junior Member
This is currently a concern of mine so it was nice to find this recent(ish) thread, thanks for all the info! Mine sounds like this over mildly rough tarmac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T1snelKf2Y&feature=youtu.be
I would like to find or create a part number list for rubber replacements, though the OEM parts are available it seems like they're insanely expensive from a dealer, I'm sure Febi must have some alternatives.
I would like to find or create a part number list for rubber replacements, though the OEM parts are available it seems like they're insanely expensive from a dealer, I'm sure Febi must have some alternatives.
