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TRDCal
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If you want to piss off a customer, charge him for an alignment then tell him after the fact there's nothing he can do because his new light racing UCA's that are camber adjustable aren't adjustable for camber. I prefer the communication route so everyone is on the same page as opposed to the blind leading the blind which never leaves me with confidence.
If you have a decent amount of lift, you might be interested in having more positive camber. 4 degrees positive camber at 3 inch of lift I think is the magic number but if your at normalish ride height, like Sungod says the alignment machine has all the specs already programmed in.
EDIT: Also, dealership is where I had my mishap. It is a great dealership but the tech wasn't experienced with aftermarket lifts. I use an independent shop thats well known for alignments, they see everything so the tech is experienced with everything...as opposed to the dealer that mainly does alignments on corollas and camrys
If you have a decent amount of lift, you might be interested in having more positive camber. 4 degrees positive camber at 3 inch of lift I think is the magic number but if your at normalish ride height, like Sungod says the alignment machine has all the specs already programmed in.
EDIT: Also, dealership is where I had my mishap. It is a great dealership but the tech wasn't experienced with aftermarket lifts. I use an independent shop thats well known for alignments, they see everything so the tech is experienced with everything...as opposed to the dealer that mainly does alignments on corollas and camrys
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Rancid13
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This is important. After installing my lift I took it to the alignment shop that one of the local truck lift installers uses for all their work. I'd say most alignment techs elsewhere are used to working on stock vehicles.
I have my Bilestein's set at 1.75 and fj coils, every shop I have called this a.m. hesitates before answering the alignment question. So, going to try my local Nissan dealer, he was pretty straight forward and said he would do what he could. Before my lift, my old tires where wearing on the inside.
gm350reratliff
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I'd tell them you want the caster close to 4* and the steering wheel straight. I'd also have them drive it before so they can see if it is drifting/pulling a certain direction. I'd also take them a box of donuts or burritos, etc. to sort of get on their good side. They may be willing to spend a little more time on yours (if it needs it) vs. just "another customer".
BlackWorksInc
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That's a really difficult printout to read (I haven't seen any alignment print-outs other than Hunter Machines, like the one posted above you.) But that Caster and Camber seem really off if I am reading that right... kinda hard with my neck cranked sideways. lol
gm350reratliff
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If I'm reading it right, to me, your alignment is still off. On the passenger side, 1° of camber is way too much. You will definitely wear the outside of that tire. Even the .45° of camber on the drivers side is too much. Also, the caster on both sides is low. That is where the skittish handling is mostly coming from. Honestly, the only thing that looks halfway decent is the toe. Is this the same shop you first used? The struggle is real, it's hard to find good alignment techs.
First alignment i have had on this 4runner, Nisaan dealer that is supposed to be good!! Not sure if i want the hassle of taking it back to them and trying to get it right or go to this independent guy that was recommended to me. I tried telling the "front desk guy" what i wanted when i went in but he kind of blew me off, not sure how well it will go if i go back in there, on my end!
BlackWorksInc
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Not entirely worried about the customer information as we don't bother typing that crap into the Hunter Machine (its not even hooked up to a network), but like [MENTION=32290]gm350reratliff[/MENTION] mentioned, the more critical measurements appear to be off by quite a bit. It honestly looks like they just "set the Toe and let it go" which is pretty common practice with most places that do alignments unless you press them to correct ALL the angles. To be honest though, most of those don't even look close to being "in the green."
OK, thanks guys for the input, I should have known something was up when I had to ask for my printout!! Now i need to decide if i am going back there or to the independent shop. The indep. shop was recommended to me by the guy who does all my service work on my 4runner.
BlackWorksInc
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Up to you, it wouldn't hurt to talk to the shop and see what they'd do for you. Worst case scenario you go back to the first shop, throw a polite hissy fit (meaning you ask for the proper repair to be done politely, they think you're being unreasonable and "one of those customers" ect.) and they do a shit job again and you go to this second shop. 
gm350reratliff
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I would just go ask for my money back.
I guess you missed this part of my response What you should ask for is if they will provide you with a print out showing the before and after readings.. You should have asked for that first. You didn't even get the before specs. I would ask for a refund because it really doesn't look like they did much beyond a toe set.