anyone have these sub??
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94yotarunner
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yep
I've got one 10 inch and it sounds awesome. For my style, two nevertheless three would be over the top, especially since they're bigger... but to each their own. Advice on the amp would be to go lower end, save some money. You'll still get a clean sound out of them and good power. I got my amp for my P2 for 100, a sony 600W and its doing much more than I expected. But, again, to each their own. Its my .02.
I've got one 10 inch and it sounds awesome. For my style, two nevertheless three would be over the top, especially since they're bigger... but to each their own. Advice on the amp would be to go lower end, save some money. You'll still get a clean sound out of them and good power. I got my amp for my P2 for 100, a sony 600W and its doing much more than I expected. But, again, to each their own. Its my .02.
TranceKrayz
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IMO i wouldn't get 15", i would get 12's or 10's for tighter bass.
my04runner
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:iagree: Since the placement of the subs are within the cabin the bass coming from a 10" sub is very clean and still deep. IMHO I wouldn't go further than 2 x 10" or a single 12".
But to each his own. I was very surprided by the bass comming from my single 10" and love it, plus I still have cargo room.
But to each his own. I was very surprided by the bass comming from my single 10" and love it, plus I still have cargo room.
Br1ck
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I tend to agree with the rest...you've seen my install and I'm convinced two 10"s with the proper amp will be more than sufficient. That is unless you are purposely looking for very low, very slow bass.
First decide what you want, sound quality or sound pressure level (Boom). From their choose your equipment. Also, make sure your amps and subs are a perfect match. By that I mean take into account the ohms of the subs and how you will wire them (parallel or serial)...this will help determine which amp to get. This is a good link for a snapshot of what I'm talking about. Using two 2ohm subs allowed me to utilize the full 1000watts @ 1ohm of my Brutus sub.
Ultimately it will come down to what do you want to hear and how much room you want to lose.
Good luck either way!
First decide what you want, sound quality or sound pressure level (Boom). From their choose your equipment. Also, make sure your amps and subs are a perfect match. By that I mean take into account the ohms of the subs and how you will wire them (parallel or serial)...this will help determine which amp to get. This is a good link for a snapshot of what I'm talking about. Using two 2ohm subs allowed me to utilize the full 1000watts @ 1ohm of my Brutus sub.
Ultimately it will come down to what do you want to hear and how much room you want to lose.
Good luck either way!
otterball21
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I had 2 15's in my old truck before and it was a bronco. Each 15 needed 4.5 cubic feet, weighed 45 pounds each. I hit 139.9db with one in a ported box. It took up all my room in the back, I couldn't really haul anything and I got horrendous gas mileage. Techno, and some songs with quick bass beats turned into a big mush. Sloppy
I've downgraded temporarily to 1 12 in a bandpassbox, which is very small, excellent conservation of space, extreme boom and clean hitting.
I'm using a P3 Rockford Fosgate sub. Which I think is definitely enough to get the whole clean sound I'm looking for.
I have to tell you though, the 15's definitely was a head turner. I had a bunch of kids stick their head out of their window 5 cars up from me trying to figure out where the hell that bass that they were feeling in their car was.
It's not always Size. It is about placement, and design and sound dynamics.
The JBL w7's are choice because of their need for little space, they excellent excursion and reproduction of sound.
They are a hard sub to fit though.
If I had a choice, I would go with the JBL w7 13. Yes... they come in 13's... not 12's..
I've downgraded temporarily to 1 12 in a bandpassbox, which is very small, excellent conservation of space, extreme boom and clean hitting.
I'm using a P3 Rockford Fosgate sub. Which I think is definitely enough to get the whole clean sound I'm looking for.
I have to tell you though, the 15's definitely was a head turner. I had a bunch of kids stick their head out of their window 5 cars up from me trying to figure out where the hell that bass that they were feeling in their car was.
It's not always Size. It is about placement, and design and sound dynamics.
The JBL w7's are choice because of their need for little space, they excellent excursion and reproduction of sound.
They are a hard sub to fit though.
If I had a choice, I would go with the JBL w7 13. Yes... they come in 13's... not 12's..
atomic punk
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Sorry, but I don't agree with:
"Advice on the amp would be to go lower end, save some money. You'll still get a clean sound out of them and good power."
Generally speaking, you get what you pay for.... agree?
If you buy a quality amp, it will run cooler, last longer, and probably put out more wattage that what it's rated for....
That being said, I can recommend my sub/amp combo that is in my jeep for the following criteria:
1) relatively inexpen$ive
2) takes up a small space
3) Sound Quality over SPL
4) enough power for rock and rap (but not hear it 5 cars up bass)
Hifonics amplifier (250w) and Image Dynamics (IDQ10) 10" sub. It asks for just less than .5cuft in a sealed box and sounds GREAT. Very accurate. The amp is quality too, has lasted me a handful of years now.
'course if you're looking for earth-rattling bass, go bigger!
Hope that helps!
"Advice on the amp would be to go lower end, save some money. You'll still get a clean sound out of them and good power."
Generally speaking, you get what you pay for.... agree?
If you buy a quality amp, it will run cooler, last longer, and probably put out more wattage that what it's rated for....
That being said, I can recommend my sub/amp combo that is in my jeep for the following criteria:
1) relatively inexpen$ive
2) takes up a small space
3) Sound Quality over SPL
4) enough power for rock and rap (but not hear it 5 cars up bass)
Hifonics amplifier (250w) and Image Dynamics (IDQ10) 10" sub. It asks for just less than .5cuft in a sealed box and sounds GREAT. Very accurate. The amp is quality too, has lasted me a handful of years now.
'course if you're looking for earth-rattling bass, go bigger!
Hope that helps!
94yotarunner
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irwinSR5 said:
"Loud" for me is the level past which I dare to push it because I see no need to blow my ears or blow my speakers. But anyways, loud for me (without amped speakers) is when with all windows closed i can barely hear music from the outside. I was getting rattling with my license plate but I fixed it, not I have no rattling.
Now when you say don't save money and get a better amp, I'm talking about an amp SOLELY for the sub. And I still stand with my save the money and you can get mine (which is all the experience I have), the sony 600W cheap amp (well for me it seemed cheap) and its powering my one sub amazingly. Thats just me.
atomic punk
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Oh, I understand now...Sony single channel for your sub.
I thought you were trying to steer someone into getting a 5,000,000 Watt Jenson amp from Walmart for $59.99!!!!
I thought you were trying to steer someone into getting a 5,000,000 Watt Jenson amp from Walmart for $59.99!!!!
otterball21
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Well, I am mistaken... w7's also come in 12's... 13's are the largest they come in. I totall forgot about that. oops... 
It's been two years since I've Played with JL.
The New sony Explod amps have excellent crossover features. I have both of my 1200 watt amps turned up to the max.
One has the Low Pass filter on cleaning up everything for my sub, and allows enough so some techno beats go through cleanly.
My component 6x9's need 250Watts Rms each speaker constantly. so I have no cross over on.
Keep in mind that it depends what you are looking to power usually, and what kind of music you listen to. The worse the cross over is, the bigger the driver you have, the sloppier it sounds, mixed with a poorly made box. YOu just got.... Ghettorific bass slop....
My opinion on amps?
The hifonics amp is very good too.
The ones that wow me the most have to be JL audio's monoblock or Alpine's V Drive series.
I am a cheap guy, so the sony's do perfectly fine right now.
Some people pick certain brand names over others.
There are a couple companies that I would usually tend to steer clear from... just from my experience.
Jensen ~ Amps, don't have great crossovers... so it sounds a little messy when used on subs.... Decent for powering speakers.
Used an amp from my work, ICK! Disgusting...
Boss ~ Use the HIGH END boss, I had a riot and I had two IDQ Amps from them, one 800 watt and two 2165Watt amps....
The 800 watt finally lost one channel in a two channel amp... worked great for high end sound, ok for bass
The 2165 watt amps.. were powering the 15's.... I burnt both of the amps.... running at half the load.... real junk... The high end stuff that they have is decent.
Pyle ~ I try to steer you away from this, A) Quality is poor, Had an amp fall apart... like the casing wasn't even screwed together properly... very poor....( Only used two pyle things... One indash screen with player... NOT motorized.... and The screen had issues with the sliding mechanism.... was garbage... and the amp... that fell apart)
Crunch ~ I've seen two of the V powers come into my shop, Really nice looking, Huge, looks great... RCA connections came out, and the amp it self was fried both of them...... I personally had no experience with them... so use your own precaution..
Dual ~ Amps are clean for speakers, good high pass filter.... Do NOT BUY THE DUAL SUB BOX WITH THE DUALS IN IT.... The excursion is not as good and crisp clean... however if your broke... and you want some subs, with a sub box... the whole box with the two subs are like 130-150. Cheap resolution. Dual Amps.... Do not power subs well
Rockford fosgate ~ Good cross overs, Powers things Excellently, one problem..... Overheating.... (I sell alot of these... but that's what I see come back quite often)
Audiobahn... ~ Had three of their amps.... One low end, one high end. and one 4 channel...., Low end was resold.... I didn't have a problem with it.... My high end and 4 channel.. Both have issues with it... Since audiobahn is sickly expensive.... I kept both and waiting to get them repaired. My high end ... the issue I think is the Analog needle on the front, and the LED. When the amp is turned on, everything is ok, until the LED and needle jump, then it goes into protection mode. I think that shorted it out.
MTX ~ Thunderbirds are awesome!!!!!! I don't have much experience with these... cause I never worked for circuit... so I Guess use your own precaution
Those are just a couple of amps I encountered
If you want to know more... ask me... Thought I'd just post this from my experience from working as a install technician for a couple years.
It's been two years since I've Played with JL.
The New sony Explod amps have excellent crossover features. I have both of my 1200 watt amps turned up to the max.
One has the Low Pass filter on cleaning up everything for my sub, and allows enough so some techno beats go through cleanly.
My component 6x9's need 250Watts Rms each speaker constantly. so I have no cross over on.
Keep in mind that it depends what you are looking to power usually, and what kind of music you listen to. The worse the cross over is, the bigger the driver you have, the sloppier it sounds, mixed with a poorly made box. YOu just got.... Ghettorific bass slop....
My opinion on amps?
The hifonics amp is very good too.
The ones that wow me the most have to be JL audio's monoblock or Alpine's V Drive series.
I am a cheap guy, so the sony's do perfectly fine right now.
Some people pick certain brand names over others.
There are a couple companies that I would usually tend to steer clear from... just from my experience.
Jensen ~ Amps, don't have great crossovers... so it sounds a little messy when used on subs.... Decent for powering speakers.
Used an amp from my work, ICK! Disgusting...
Boss ~ Use the HIGH END boss, I had a riot and I had two IDQ Amps from them, one 800 watt and two 2165Watt amps....
The 800 watt finally lost one channel in a two channel amp... worked great for high end sound, ok for bass
The 2165 watt amps.. were powering the 15's.... I burnt both of the amps.... running at half the load.... real junk... The high end stuff that they have is decent.
Pyle ~ I try to steer you away from this, A) Quality is poor, Had an amp fall apart... like the casing wasn't even screwed together properly... very poor....( Only used two pyle things... One indash screen with player... NOT motorized.... and The screen had issues with the sliding mechanism.... was garbage... and the amp... that fell apart)
Crunch ~ I've seen two of the V powers come into my shop, Really nice looking, Huge, looks great... RCA connections came out, and the amp it self was fried both of them...... I personally had no experience with them... so use your own precaution..
Dual ~ Amps are clean for speakers, good high pass filter.... Do NOT BUY THE DUAL SUB BOX WITH THE DUALS IN IT.... The excursion is not as good and crisp clean... however if your broke... and you want some subs, with a sub box... the whole box with the two subs are like 130-150. Cheap resolution. Dual Amps.... Do not power subs well
Rockford fosgate ~ Good cross overs, Powers things Excellently, one problem..... Overheating.... (I sell alot of these... but that's what I see come back quite often)
Audiobahn... ~ Had three of their amps.... One low end, one high end. and one 4 channel...., Low end was resold.... I didn't have a problem with it.... My high end and 4 channel.. Both have issues with it... Since audiobahn is sickly expensive.... I kept both and waiting to get them repaired. My high end ... the issue I think is the Analog needle on the front, and the LED. When the amp is turned on, everything is ok, until the LED and needle jump, then it goes into protection mode. I think that shorted it out.
MTX ~ Thunderbirds are awesome!!!!!! I don't have much experience with these... cause I never worked for circuit... so I Guess use your own precaution
Those are just a couple of amps I encountered
If you want to know more... ask me... Thought I'd just post this from my experience from working as a install technician for a couple years.
94yotarunner
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atomic punk said:
lol... yea i wasn't explaining myself well enough.
"I love Jenson, whats wrong with it? Except that the songs all kind of sound the same from Michael Jackson to Eric Clapton... but its not sloppy I swear."
otterball21
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For subs the low pass filter on the jensens we used to sell were horrible. They filtered out barely anything, the little dials on the front popped off....
A bunch of kids wanted me to put in jensen that listened to rap...
It sounded bad.... it kept the cone fluttering in like mid frequencies, the filter couldn't take it out... so I don't like them...
A bunch of kids wanted me to put in jensen that listened to rap...
It sounded bad.... it kept the cone fluttering in like mid frequencies, the filter couldn't take it out... so I don't like them...
