anyone interested in some adjustable tracbars?

there easy to make and i could make them and sell them for about 140 a piece. toytec is ripping people off with theres.

and if i get some people interested i'll order the materials this week and have them done and ready to ship within a few days after i get the materials.

I guess you will get a business license ? and vendor status ?
 
They actually do give the axle a bit more flex. The reason being is that when the axle travels up and down, the bushings in the panhard bar do not pivot freely. since the center sleeve is bonded to the bushing, the bushing has to flex back and forth when the axle travels up and down. Heims on the other hand do pivot freely so they will not start to bind up when you are fully flexed out. IMHO, It is not a night and day difference in the amount of flex. The main benefit is that you are able to adjust the position of the axle
 
In regards to articulation and flex...this is quoted from SS' website on the trac/pan bars:

"It re-centers the axle, lining everything up again to prevent breakage and unlocks a large amount of rear articulation"

Which then shortly after mentions the stock bushings limit movement...the bushings have nothing to do with centering your axle, only the threaded shaft/nut for horizontal adjustments, they could only be useful for the up and down movement or whatever from my understanding is aka articulation...

That is why I asked, figured maybe some1 would have one installed already and could shed some light on it...Bc now I'm confused...Is that just saying articulation in the fact you now have the ability to re-track your axle, or from how I took it as it unlocks more vertical movement, flex, articulation, etc.....

Didnt mean to hijack btw, apologies just was trying to see if its a bigger priority then other things as when I measured my axle is dead center with my 891s and stock tracbar...


But anyways man cant wait to see your finished product! Keep us posted and good luck with the move! Im in the middle of the same process...

I would NOT, believe anything, he writes on his website. he has been known to bash other business then the next day, buy from them, I would NEVER trust him.
Either make your own, or buy from a reputable business/vendor.
 
If you could sell them at $140 that would be cool. But how much do YOU personally get out of that? $20? The cost of materials is going to be pretty close to $120 isn't it? Toytec is a business, they are trying to make money. So no, they aren't going to sell their products within $20 of whatever their cost is. There is always mark up in every product. Thats how a business works. They are a supporting vendor of this forum and by no means are "ripping people off". They have quality products at fair prices.

With that said I think it is cool that you are making some, and I wish you luck. I just don't think its cool to go around bashing the vendors.
 
where you located? will you tig these mig these? what size dom are you using wall thickness? whos rod ends are you using?
 
With that said I think it is cool that you are making some, and I wish you luck. I just don't think its cool to go around bashing the vendors.

i didn't mean to bash a supporting vendor of the forum, i should have taken into account that they have WAY more over head than me. i will choose my words more carefully next time.
 
They actually do give the axle a bit more flex. The reason being is that when the axle travels up and down, the bushings in the panhard bar do not pivot freely. since the center sleeve is bonded to the bushing, the bushing has to flex back and forth when the axle travels up and down. Heims on the other hand do pivot freely so they will not start to bind up when you are fully flexed out. IMHO, It is not a night and day difference in the amount of flex. The main benefit is that you are able to adjust the position of the axle

Thanks, Steeze exactly what I was questioning about...preciate the info dude!
 
If you could sell them at $140 that would be cool. But how much do YOU personally get out of that? $20? The cost of materials is going to be pretty close to $120 isn't it? Toytec is a business, they are trying to make money. So no, they aren't going to sell their products within $20 of whatever their cost is. There is always mark up in every product. Thats how a business works. They are a supporting vendor of this forum and by no means are "ripping people off". They have quality products at fair prices.

With that said I think it is cool that you are making some, and I wish you luck. I just don't think its cool to go around bashing the vendors.

hey i got much love for toytech, great company, but he's right on the price for trac bars, i didn't think he was bashing at all, never said anything about the company themselves just a product on the market he felt was over priced and wanted to offer something better/cheaper/whatever, this is the purpose of the forums and one of the ways we keep vendors honest, toytech has earned their great reputation and i don't think op's post ever called that into question.....and shouldn't they are great. but......

without guys like this we wouldn't have outdoor logic or BAMF, people who saw a need for our trucks that wasn't fully being met or was over priced by other vendors and filled the void , hell man getting on this guy over this is almost un-american , let him make his product and let the market decide what a fair price is, personally i don't think $200 plus shipping is fair and that's why i've never bought one, i do think $120 or so is more inline with what these should cost and from this thread it would seem alot of people feel the same way..sorry dude, i just felt like that post was pretty fan boy and kind of stifling, after all if we can't remain neutral how can we be trusted when telling people how awesome toytech is in regards to their prices and products on other things? meh, whatever though, i don't really care, i just thought that was kind of uncool to rain on guy's parade ....i'm out as this won't end well, lol.....:zoom:
 
i didn't think he was bashing at all, never said anything about the company themselves
Incorrect. He said, "toytec is ripping people of with theres."
i do think $120 or so is more inline with what these should cost and from this thread it would seem alot of people feel the same way..
Yeah $120 sounds like a great price, but that is just going to be the cost of materials to make them. My point is Toytec is not going to make a product and sell it for the same cost it took them to make it. If this guy wants to do that to hook up some forum members thats cool. But to say that "toytec is ripping people off" at that price is just not true. Yes they have mark up in their products, every business does. No they are not selling it to you at their cost, they are trying to make money.
 
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I'm not looking to bash anyone, vendor or the guy looking to sell these. But a pan hard bar is actually very easy to make when you can buy what you need quite easily.

1-1/4 Tube Adapters : TMR Customs, Custom Fabrication Components for Offroad Vehicles

7/8 Chromoly Rod Ends : TMR Customs, Custom Fabrication Components for Offroad Vehicles

Plus a pc 20 buck pc of dom, find a welder and your done. Then again if you don't have the means to find a welder 120-150 shipped is a very fair price.

Sorry wrong tube adaptor but you guys get the idea. Material is about 80 bucks.

http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_167
 
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