AT Tires

[RedST4R]

Kumho AT51

I'm new to this forum. Just had Kumho Road Venture AT51 mounted 2 weeks ago. I don't drive off road, but it's been great on road and dry weather, low road noise. We'll see how it goes in snow/ice when I move to Alaska early next year. I'm sure it'll do well from the reviews I've read.

 

[iamedo]

Bought the Goodyear Adventure with Kevlar (mainly because of Goodyear rebates and free installl). Tires are amazing in rain and quiet compared to OEM Duelers (garbage if you ask me). Haven't been able to get off-road yet. Any drawbacks with this tire?

 

[RPS99SHO]

Just a long term update on my General Grabber AT2's. I had to replace 2 in February at ~47K miles due to puncturing a sidewall on a rock while off roading. At that time comparing new tread to old it looked like I still had slightly less than half of the tread left after 45K+ miles. The rubber in the blocks was getting a little harder and there were a couple small chunks missing from playing in rocks. Today, and roughly 53K miles since mounting the original set I had to replace the other pair. Again, a non-repairable sidewall puncture from something on the drive home last week. I had the good tire from February mounted as my spare, and I kept the good tire from today to put in the shop, just in case I have unforeseen problems before I am due for tires again. I simply didn't want to replace one tire on either occasion due to the amount of wear vs a brand new tire. This is why I replaced them in pairs. They never got noisier than a slight hum at highway speeds after about 40k and that was not a consideration when looking at replacement.



I had no hesitation in ordering the same tires as I had mounted in 2014. I have been completely happy with their performance off road as well as their longevity on the mostly highway driving they have been run through. I'm just throwing this out as an FYI for anyone who may be considering these tires. :thanks:

Nice review. I have a set on my 99, and I like them so much I put a set on my 16.

 

[RPS99SHO]

AT2s on my stock TE (aside from TRDs and Spidertrax).

 

[T4RZAN]

Still trying to under stand the tire readings. Why would you go with 255/80/17 over a 285/70/17? Just to have a taller tire that isn't as wide?

 

[SteadfastZach]

Ok, so I have a 2WD and want an aggressive looking tire. i.e., was going to order KO2's tomorrow. The thing is, I feel like I would be buying the wrong tire. I drive 80 miles a day, 70% highway. I have the old KO's on a truck and got a lot of wheel spin on rainy days. So with the wife driving it occasionally and living in FL. I feel the AT3's are the right decision. I've done so much online reading and pic searching I drove myself nuts. Someone tell me I'm not alone in this issue.

 

[Aurora85]

Ok, so I have a 2WD and want an aggressive looking tire. i.e., was going to order KO2's tomorrow. The thing is, I feel like I would be buying the wrong tire. I drive 80 miles a day, 70% highway. I have the old KO's on a truck and got a lot of wheel spin on rainy days. So with the wife driving it occasionally and living in FL. I feel the AT3's are the right decision. I've done so much online reading and pic searching I drove myself nuts. Someone tell me I'm not alone in this issue.

I'm with you. I want to go with the KO2s, but I spend 99.9% time on the street. I have heard they are good in the wet. I'm trying to avoid adding unnecessary weight. I thought the AT3's would be a solid choice, but a lot of folks seem to have balance issues which has shied me away. I'm now leaning toward Terra Grappler G2s in stock size.

 

[1engineer]

I'm with you. I want to go with the KO2s, but I spend 99.9% time on the street. I have heard they are good in the wet. I'm trying to avoid adding unnecessary weight. I thought the AT3's would be a solid choice, but a lot of folks seem to have balance issues which has shied me away. I'm now leaning toward Terra Grappler G2s in stock size.

Wait to read my review of them. I'll post it tomorrow.

 

[Aurora85]

Wait to read my review of them. I'll post it tomorrow.

Looking forward to it..thanks!

 

[SteadfastZach]

Finally Decided!

ANNNND.... I just ordered 4 Cooper AT3's in 275/70/17 in C load rating. I just got tired of beating myself up about aggressive appearance. It was really an easy decision. I don't need E rated tires, I don't need extra weight with my driving pattern, I don't offroad. Plus they will still look good with a Daystar spacer lift in the future. :guitar3:

 

[Diver Deuce]

AT2s on my stock TE (aside from TRDs and Spidertrax).

I've got 5 Grabber AT2s in 33x12.50r17.

 

[1engineer]

I'm with you. I want to go with the KO2s, but I spend 99.9% time on the street. I have heard they are good in the wet. I'm trying to avoid adding unnecessary weight. I thought the AT3's would be a solid choice, but a lot of folks seem to have balance issues which has shied me away. I'm now leaning toward Terra Grappler G2s in stock size.

Alright. About 35K miles ago I decided that I would replace my 2nd set of Cooper AT3's with Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires. Both were stock size and P load, or SL as they call them now. Why? Well, Toyota was offering a by three get one free sale and they were OEM on the Pro and they looked good and I had read no negative reviews on them so why not. I spend a lot of time on the highway but for work and a bit of play I do have to go off road so an AT tire is fine for me.

I immediately noticed the Nitto tire did not get as good wet road traction as the Cooper. When pulling out into traffic on wet roads, I would now want to break traction where the Coopers had a higher level of adhesion. No real difference in heavy rain as far as hydroplane goes as both tires did fine in that respect.

The icy slush of winter driving was just the same as wet road traction. The AT3'S win here by a decent margin. When the snow got deep both tires performed admirably. Not as well as a dedicated snow tire of course but much better than an all season tire. So a wash basically. Dirt, mud and rocks I actually preferred the Nitto's. Why? They did not hold the small pebbles as much as the Coopers.

Road noise, when new, was the same. Of course over time every tire gets louder as they wear. Tire wear was also about the same as well. Both tires are around a 50K tire. What was really annoying with the Nitto, and the reason I went back to Cooper was the shake. I know that tires don't have nylon or polyester belts in them anymore but during cold weather or even cool weather the Nitto would seem to "flat spot" a bit after sitting overnight. Not much individually but when they all synced up it would shake. Also it seemed the more they wore the worse the problem would get. I rotate them every 10K and I had them Reba landed twice. After considering every tire from the BFG to the Michelin I decided to go back to the Coopers.

I now have around 2K miles on the new Coopers and they are a very good compromise tire. Just wanted to get this out there.

This is my 3rd set of AT3'S now and, at least for me, there are no balance issues. I was in the shop watching them balance mine and it was quick and painless with very little weight added. Truck is smooth at all speeds, if I can find a smooth road...

 

[Aurora85]

Alright. About 35K miles ago I decided that I would replace my 2nd set of Cooper AT3's with Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires. Both were stock size and P load, or SL as they call them now. Why? Well, Toyota was offering a by three get one free sale and they were OEM on the Pro and they looked good and I had read no negative reviews on them so why not. I spend a lot of time on the highway but for work and a bit of play I do have to go off road so an AT tire is fine for me.

I immediately noticed the Nitto tire did not get as good wet road traction as the Cooper. When pulling out into traffic on wet roads, I would now want to break traction where the Coopers had a higher level of adhesion. No real difference in heavy rain as far as hydroplane goes as both tires did fine in that respect.

The icy slush of winter driving was just the same as wet road traction. The AT3'S win here by a decent margin. When the snow got deep both tires performed admirably. Not as well as a dedicated snow tire of course but much better than an all season tire. So a wash basically. Dirt, mud and rocks I actually preferred the Nitto's. Why? They did not hold the small pebbles as much as the Coopers.

Road noise, when new, was the same. Of course over time every tire gets louder as they wear. Tire wear was also about the same as well. Both tires are around a 50K tire. What was really annoying with the Nitto, and the reason I went back to Cooper was the shake. I know that tires don't have nylon or polyester belts in them anymore but during cold weather or even cool weather the Nitto would seem to "flat spot" a bit after sitting overnight. Not much individually but when they all synced up it would shake. Also it seemed the more they wore the worse the problem would get. I rotate them every 10K and I had them Reba landed twice. After considering every tire from the BFG to the Michelin I decided to go back to the Coopers.

I now have around 2K miles on the new Coopers and they are a very good compromise tire. Just wanted to get this out there.

This is my 3rd set of AT3'S now and, at least for me, there are no balance issues. I was in the shop watching them balance mine and it was quick and painless with very little weight added. Truck is smooth at all speeds, if I can find a smooth road...

Thank you very much for that review. I haven't had too many other reviews to go on for the Terra Grappler. It's good to know you didn't have any balance issues with the AT3s. A lot of different posts on here indicated that people had issues balancing them. Makes this choice even harder ha.

 

[TBBrewer]

Goodyear Wrangker Duratracs

The '16 4Runner Trail we got last month was the head salesman's demo. I was pleased to see he had fitted it with Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs in place of the standard A/T rubber and, from what I can find on the web, these seem to be pretty good tires. Are there any 4Runner owners who have had these, and can tell me how they stand up to wear and how they handle winter conditions? Thanks - Ted

 

[SteadfastZach]

They just arrived at the dealer, get them installed in the AM

 

[-dustin]

Alright. About 35K miles ago I decided that I would replace my 2nd set of Cooper AT3's with Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires. Both were stock size and P load, or SL as they call them now. Why? Well, Toyota was offering a by three get one free sale and they were OEM on the Pro and they looked good and I had read no negative reviews on them so why not. I spend a lot of time on the highway but for work and a bit of play I do have to go off road so an AT tire is fine for me.

I immediately noticed the Nitto tire did not get as good wet road traction as the Cooper. When pulling out into traffic on wet roads, I would now want to break traction where the Coopers had a higher level of adhesion. No real difference in heavy rain as far as hydroplane goes as both tires did fine in that respect.

The icy slush of winter driving was just the same as wet road traction. The AT3'S win here by a decent margin. When the snow got deep both tires performed admirably. Not as well as a dedicated snow tire of course but much better than an all season tire. So a wash basically. Dirt, mud and rocks I actually preferred the Nitto's. Why? They did not hold the small pebbles as much as the Coopers.

Road noise, when new, was the same. Of course over time every tire gets louder as they wear. Tire wear was also about the same as well. Both tires are around a 50K tire. What was really annoying with the Nitto, and the reason I went back to Cooper was the shake. I know that tires don't have nylon or polyester belts in them anymore but during cold weather or even cool weather the Nitto would seem to "flat spot" a bit after sitting overnight. Not much individually but when they all synced up it would shake. Also it seemed the more they wore the worse the problem would get. I rotate them every 10K and I had them Reba landed twice. After considering every tire from the BFG to the Michelin I decided to go back to the Coopers.

I now have around 2K miles on the new Coopers and they are a very good compromise tire. Just wanted to get this out there.

This is my 3rd set of AT3'S now and, at least for me, there are no balance issues. I was in the shop watching them balance mine and it was quick and painless with very little weight added. Truck is smooth at all speeds, if I can find a smooth road...

your experience in the wet is the one and only thing i remember reading about the Nittos, and why I chose Coopers ATPs over the OEM-spec Nitto.

Now my question for you - why AT3 over ATP? Did you ever consider the ATP?

I've got about 20k miles on my ATPs and have yet to be in a situation where I've needed more out of them.

 

[1engineer]

your experience in the wet is the one and only thing i remember reading about the Nittos, and why I chose Coopers ATPs over the OEM-spec Nitto.

Now my question for you - why AT3 over ATP? Did you ever consider the ATP?

I've got about 20k miles on my ATPs and have yet to be in a situation where I've needed more out of them.

Not a real big difference and have no Discount Tire within 200 miles of me lol.

 

[SteadfastZach]

Freakin love my AT3's!

Tuesday I had my 275/70/17 AT3's installed! Love the ride and look. Drove straight from work 200 miles to Orlando for a little Wife and Husband get away. Handles like a champ on the freeway and road noise was almost non existent up to 80mph. You do feel the road more but it isn't a annoyance, it's a you feel in control. Definitely recommend these tires. Got a great deal on them too, makes it even sweeter

Better pics later but this is what I have ATM.


DISNEY

 

[green_manalishi]

I'm going to bump this older thread so as not to create a new one.

I'm looking for opinions / pics of the Kumho road Venture AT51. It is a new offering from Kumho, and the reviews seem to be pretty solid.

Review: Kumho Road Venture AT51 Review - MinimumTread.com

Tire rack has them rated the #1 offroad tire behind the KO2 ... but that's taken with a grain of salt. I know Kumho have been mediocre in the past but everyone is saying with this tire they have turned a corner in the offroad tire market.

I like the more agressive sidewall when compared to the other tire I'm considering - the Grabber AT2. I've had the grabbers on a 2nd Gen 4runner and I was a fan of them. I am just craving the aggressive look the KO2 gives - and shopping around for options before just biting the bullet on the BFG.

In the end I may just go with the KO2 - but I want to do my due dilligence and look at the competition first.

I would love pics of a stock TE running the Grabber AT2 or the Road Venture AT51.

Post up some pics when you get them on! I sure would love to see them. I ended up going with the KO2 but I am really interested in how these look.

Had 255/75/17 load C mounted on my 4th gen last week and was finally able to give these a spin off road. Initial impressions were great, though I wish I had a set of KO2's to compare. Thanks to the changing seasons here in Colorado, I saw dirt, rocks, light (1-2") mud, and slick snow covered ascents and descents. I only aired down slightly from 37 to 30(hot) and the Kumhos gripped well in all situations. No slipping whatsoever. And lugs are DEEP; Kumho rates them at 15.6/32"!

As far as on-road, I'll echo what the other reviews have said. Quiet and track well. Haven't tackled high speed highway snow and ice yet, but I expect they will excel due to the high amount of siping and mountain snowflake rating. My only concern is in long term tread wear as the rubber feels a bit soft to the touch. But, then again, it's a mountain snowflake rated AT, so that's to be expected. Assuming no surprises this winter, I'd definitely recommend these for half the price of KO2s. I paid $660 out the door after rebate.

 

[swva]

Alright. About 35K miles ago I decided that I would replace my 2nd set of Cooper AT3's with Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires. Both were stock size and P load, or SL as they call them now. Why? Well, Toyota was offering a by three get one free sale and they were OEM on the Pro and they looked good and I had read no negative reviews on them so why not. I spend a lot of time on the highway but for work and a bit of play I do have to go off road so an AT tire is fine for me.

I immediately noticed the Nitto tire did not get as good wet road traction as the Cooper. When pulling out into traffic on wet roads, I would now want to break traction where the Coopers had a higher level of adhesion. No real difference in heavy rain as far as hydroplane goes as both tires did fine in that respect.

The icy slush of winter driving was just the same as wet road traction. The AT3'S win here by a decent margin. When the snow got deep both tires performed admirably. Not as well as a dedicated snow tire of course but much better than an all season tire. So a wash basically. Dirt, mud and rocks I actually preferred the Nitto's. Why? They did not hold the small pebbles as much as the Coopers.

Road noise, when new, was the same. Of course over time every tire gets louder as they wear. Tire wear was also about the same as well. Both tires are around a 50K tire. What was really annoying with the Nitto, and the reason I went back to Cooper was the shake. I know that tires don't have nylon or polyester belts in them anymore but during cold weather or even cool weather the Nitto would seem to "flat spot" a bit after sitting overnight. Not much individually but when they all synced up it would shake. Also it seemed the more they wore the worse the problem would get. I rotate them every 10K and I had them Reba landed twice. After considering every tire from the BFG to the Michelin I decided to go back to the Coopers.

I now have around 2K miles on the new Coopers and they are a very good compromise tire. Just wanted to get this out there.

This is my 3rd set of AT3'S now and, at least for me, there are no balance issues. I was in the shop watching them balance mine and it was quick and painless with very little weight added. Truck is smooth at all speeds, if I can find a smooth road...

I have a set of AT3's (265/70/17 LT) with 34,000 miles on them so far. They have wore very well and I will at least get 50,000 miles out of them.
They do have very good wet traction. I do not mind driving in the rain at all with these tires. They have always gripped the wet pavement well.
Last winter I found that my set does great in dry, powdery snow. As long as the snow was wasn't slushy, 10+ inches wasn't even a workout for them. As soon as the snow started melting and turned slushy though they struggled for grip. It wasn't horrible grip but I expected them to do a little better in the slushy snow.
They grip the dry road really well and respond great to steering.
I haven't had them off road yet but that should change next month. I'm supposed to help a family member do some work to maintain some trails in the area. The vehicle to get us where we need to go will be my 4Runner so I'm really looking forward to it.
Unlike you, I've had the tires balanced 6 times. Two of those times were on the Road Force Balance machine. The last time seems to have finally gotten them balanced right. It's been at least 10,000 miles since the last balance.
The balancing issue has been my only complaint with them. If it wasn't for that I would definitely recommend the tire to anyone because it seems to be a great tire overall. The balance issue seems to be hit and miss with owners.