Aux light wiring question.

olliebear

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I ma getting a set of PIAAs wired in today. I requested that the lights be wired to the high beam relay so it can go on and off by the high beam control. The shop just called and said that the new 4th Gen Toyotas and new Fords have some whiz bang wiring that prevents the relay to be wired that way and that they can wire it in straight to the battery with the on off switch seperate from the high beam control.

IS ther a way to get it to run with teh high beam controls?
 
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If you can, I would recommend getting access to the wiring diagram for the 4runner first.

I've only had mine for about 4 months now, but still not brave enough to do any kind of hacking and wacking on it.

Anyway, it is unfortunate that the low beams do not turn off when you turn on the high beams on the current 4runners (my '99 Olds Alero does this...low beam off when high beam on...damn DRLs...). Because you could have put a relay inbetween the + and - wires of the low beam that turns on and allows power to flow to your aux lights...when the low beam turns off, the aux lights turn off.

I think what you are going to need is a 'reverse' relay...a relay that is by default 'on' and you apply power to it to turn it off.

So, when the high beams are off, the above relay will allow power to the aux lights...then when high beams are turned on, the relay 'disconnects' power to the aux lights.

As the saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat...sorry to the cat owners out there...;-)

There may be more that one way to do this...this is just off the top of my head...

I would try to tap into the wires going into the headlights themselves...if the headlights (along with everything else) is controlled by a BCM (Body Control Module...like my Olds), then it is simpler to hack into wires at the end.

Why the need for the wire diagram...well, in older cars I've worked on...the headlight bulb was always grouned, and to turn it on, power (via relay and switch) from a 12V source was provided. No so anymore...I discovered on my Olds that the BCM actually controlled the lights and that headlights were, what I called 'reversed' wired. This means that headlight bulb was always connected to a 12V source...when I turn on the headlight switch, a signal was sent to the BCM which in turn applied ground to bulb, thereby turning it on. Strange, huh?

So, you'll have to know which wire (+ or -) is constantly connected and which one gets 'applied' when you turn it on or off...in order to wire up the relay properly.
 
One thing I should add...be careful when using relays.

When you apply power to a relay, you are basically charging up a small coil. Coils of wire tend to store the energy you apply to it. Unfortunately, as soon as you disconnect power from it, it was to release its stored energy very, very quickly...in doing so, the release energy can be several times more powerful (voltage wise) than the energy you put into it...basically, it can create a voltage spike.

This voltage spike can be very bad for sensitive circuitry like BCMs, ECMs and such.

So, if you decide to go this route, I would do a little more research...for example, see if the wiring diagrams can tell where power or ground for the headlights is coming from...directly from the BCM or indirectly from a relay, etc.

In either case, if I were you I would try to find a relay with a built in diode and resister that 'absorbs' the energy from the relay coil when it is turned off...
 
I have my Hellas wired so that it CAN come one when the driving lights are on. This way, it doesn't require that my head lights are on to turn on my Hellas. I did this by tapping relay into the driving light's wires. I also installed a switch so that if I didn't want the fog lights on when the driving lights were on, then I could turn off the fog lights.

If you tapped into the High Beams, then you would be forced to have the high beams on just to run your fog lights.

So as of right now I can have my low beams, high beams, stock fog lights and also my Hella 500 driving lights all on at the same time.
 
hmmm...I was thinking that he wanted is aux lights to turn off when his high beams were on and vice versa...sort of like the OEM fog lights on our 4runner...doh!

If you want your high beams to turn on the aux lights...then just wire up a standard relay...not a 'reverse' relay.
 

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