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Just got my T4R back from her 100K mile service. At this interval we did new spark plugs and wires (both OEM), changed the oil inside the supercharger - Brian said there was only a drop of oil left in there, although it does not take a lot of oil to beging with - changed the dynamic tensioner, the 3 belts, and changed out the power steering fluid.

He put in new power steering fluid. I told him it needed ATF fluid not PSF. He said what was in there was actually PSF, and not ATF. I had never changed the power steering fluid before so what was in there was original - it came from Toyota that way. I am a bit concerned about this but it has gone 100K without an issue so maybe I'm being overly concerned?
 

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I doubt they could really tell the difference between them.
Pull your trans dipstick and compare it to your PS fluid.
 
The stock fluid from the factory was born clear. It will not LOOK anything like ATF. Nonetheless, ATF (Dexron II or III) IS the recommended fluid for top-up and replacement.
 
xStePheNyz said:
Just got my T4R back from her 100K mile service. At this interval we did new spark plugs and wires (both OEM), changed the oil inside the supercharger - Brian said there was only a drop of oil left in there, although it does not take a lot of oil to beging with - changed the dynamic tensioner, the 3 belts, and changed out the power steering fluid.

He put in new power steering fluid. I told him it needed ATF fluid not PSF. He said what was in there was actually PSF, and not ATF. I had never changed the power steering fluid before so what was in there was original - it came from Toyota that way. I am a bit concerned about this but it has gone 100K without an issue so maybe I'm being overly concerned?
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Well theres your problem, unbolt the black thing that has the letters TRD on it, ship it to me and I'll dispose of it for you, that should reduce the engine where, and give you less of a whistle through the gears.
 
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i can't even believe i have that supercharger. i can't believe i spent that money and even had that money, it was in July of 2001. Gas was about $1.00 a gallon. Sure some days it was 97 cents and other days 1.02. Who ever figured how much that'd change. I went in to upgrade the stock exhaust and wound up buying the supercharger.

My last truck was a 96 Bronco. I loved the looks and style of the Bronco but it just can't compare to the T4R. At 30K I had already replaced brakes and CV joints. I just replaced my T4R brakes at 90K and still have the original CV joints and all that other stuff. Also, the Bronco had sqeaks and rattles from day 1 and here the 4Runner is at 100K and it still doesn't have any sqeaks, rattles, missing buttons, falling headliner, broken plastic interior parts, broken handles and levers, and so on, and on and on.

I feel fine with my Runner at 100K. I would shudder to think of an Explorer or Blazer at 100K and what it would need, in comparison, and what it would be worth in comparison to a 4Runner.

And I think ours is the greatest of generations. I see 4th gens all the time, chunky looking, like a Blazer, indistinguishable. I saw a 2010 the other day, it made me think Land Rover in design.
 
xStePheNyz said:
i can't even believe i have that supercharger. i can't believe i spent that money and even had that money, it was in July of 2001. Gas was about $1.00 a gallon. Sure some days it was 97 cents and other days 1.02. Who ever figured how much that'd change. I went in to upgrade the stock exhaust and wound up buying the supercharger.

My last truck was a 96 Bronco. I loved the looks and style of the Bronco but it just can't compare to the T4R. At 30K I had already replaced brakes and CV joints. I just replaced my T4R brakes at 90K and still have the original CV joints and all that other stuff. Also, the Bronco had sqeaks and rattles from day 1 and here the 4Runner is at 100K and it still doesn't have any sqeaks, rattles, missing buttons, falling headliner, broken plastic interior parts, broken handles and levers, and so on, and on and on.

I feel fine with my Runner at 100K. I would shudder to think of an Explorer or Blazer at 100K and what it would need, in comparison, and what it would be worth in comparison to a 4Runner.

And I think ours is the greatest of generations. I see 4th gens all the time, chunky looking, like a Blazer, indistinguishable. I saw a 2010 the other day, it made me think Land Rover in design.
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Well when i first got the 4runner i had a number of rattles, leaks and squeaks, now i only have leaks and squeaks.
 
ok well atf is an alternative to p/s fluid... since fluids can not be compressed and they basically do the same thing they say u can use atf in ur p/s system. i however would never do so... why would they make different fluids if they werent different for a reason... my runner has 148k on it and i have never had a problem with the p/s system or fluid... only in an emergency would i use atf in my p/s. just go with whats supposed to be. this is what gets longevity out of runners... its like why screw around with what works?
 
You're asking for trouble if you use p/s fluid. They print that info in your manual for a reason. They stamp it on the cap so there should never be any question about it.
 
well now i am wondering what to do. i have new PSF in there. should i take it to the toyo dealer and ask them to drain and fill with ATF, should i actually flush the PSF and put in ATF, or should i just leave the PSF?
 
xStePheNyz said:
i can't even believe i have that supercharger. i can't believe i spent that money and even had that money, it was in July of 2001. Gas was about $1.00 a gallon. Sure some days it was 97 cents and other days 1.02. Who ever figured how much that'd change. I went in to upgrade the stock exhaust and wound up buying the supercharger.

My last truck was a 96 Bronco. I loved the looks and style of the Bronco but it just can't compare to the T4R. At 30K I had already replaced brakes and CV joints. I just replaced my T4R brakes at 90K and still have the original CV joints and all that other stuff. Also, the Bronco had sqeaks and rattles from day 1 and here the 4Runner is at 100K and it still doesn't have any sqeaks, rattles, missing buttons, falling headliner, broken plastic interior parts, broken handles and levers, and so on, and on and on.

I feel fine with my Runner at 100K. I would shudder to think of an Explorer or Blazer at 100K and what it would need, in comparison, and what it would be worth in comparison to a 4Runner.

And I think ours is the greatest of generations. I see 4th gens all the time, chunky looking, like a Blazer, indistinguishable. I saw a 2010 the other day, it made me think Land Rover in design.
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true, 3rd gens do stick out , i dont really like the 4th gen though, but i do like the interior over the 3rd gen lol. and the 5th gen is growing on me.
 
This is getting interesting. I'm doing some overhaul on our newly aquired 4runner. When I called the dealer about getting some ATF or whatever they use for the power steering fluid, the Toyota tech told me the same thing, just standard power steering fluid. He said they use Valvoline power steering fluid.

I've heard some say that ATF gets too thick in the cold? Can't vouch for that statement though. My thought is...could you really do damage to a power steering system by using...........................power steering fluid?

I'm interested to hear what others have to say as well.
 
i don't think the SC makes much if any difference in the gas mileage for some reason. If you drive her hard yeah you will use up more gas. For the most part I take it easy on her.

what i am concerned about is that power steering fluid in my power steering system. It seems odd. But i think the ATF is recommended because of a higher heat tolerance? Could the PSF fry my system? It's brand new fluid. I wouldn't be thrilled to go take it some place and replace that and i am thinking the only way to get it all out would be a flush - and would a flush be a bad idea for a t4R at 100K miles if it has never been flushed out before - or could a flush itself do more damage than good. And if not, it is possible i have a mix of ATF and PSF in there because i only did a drain and fill -

suggestions or thoughts please - i would prefer to avoid an expensive problem with the power steering system.....thanks in advance
 
Sorry for going off topic but I'm assuming your truck is an automatic? Did you upgrade the valve body on the tranny when you installed the supercharger? I'm considering throwing a blower on my truck but there is a lot of varying opinions out there about doing this to a stock automatic 3rd gen...
 
yes my truck is auto. i ordered the SC kit, a complete supercharger plus the boost gauge, and the TRD exhaust system - sold seperately.

so whatever came with the Supercharger is what is in there. I did not order any other upgrades - valves, transmission, or anything else. I installed it when the truck was nearly new, maybe 1500 or so miles. At the time they said it would take a few hundred miles or so for the system to "learn" the supercharger and that it would become "fully integrated", whatever that may or may not mean.

Well, it made it to 100K miles if that means anything to you. It needed 2 things, an oil change - which is a 3 - 4 hours procedure - and it needed a new dynamic tensioner - which was not cheap, about $250 for the part. In the book it says it is a self contained unit that requires service at 100K intervals.

i am still trying to decide what to do with the PSF in my power steering system....i could:
A. Leave it alone
B. Drain and fill - but then i'd have a concoction of ATF and PSF in there. is that a good thing?
C. Flush and fill. it's over 100K miles and never been flushed, so i am not so sure flushing is a very good idea.
 
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