Best Oil for High Mileage Engine?

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I recently bought my 1997 3.4 with 317K miles. The PO had all maintenance done at the dealership. As far back as I can see 5W-30 has been used and I'm assuming the Toyota dealer uses the actual Toyota 5w-30. So far I'm not seeing any noticeable oil consumption. I plan on doing my own oil changes, so I'm wondering if any name brand 5w-30 will be fine, or if there is something else that is recommend. Thanks for any help.
 
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Well i suppose ya gotta choose the high level type of oil, full synth, blend or full dino. Many great brands. Many on here use Mobil 1, Shell's Rotella T6, Pennzoil Ultra Premium and on and on.

Then of course are the oil filters. Many like Bosch and Purolator Pure One but many other good ones. Look for the oversize jobs for a little extra capacity.

Guessing you've gone over the buyers guide info? Lots of good and necessary info such as the pink milkshake potential and the lower ball joints weakness. Luck and enjoy! :cowboy:
 
These aren't picky engines. Any name brand 5W30 will be sufficient when changed at 5000 miles. I recommend going to synthetic, but these things could honestly run forever on regular Pennzoil or Castrol. I would get a quality filter, like OEM or Wix.
 
Mobil 1 High Mileage synthetic or Maxlife synthetic/blend. Both contain cleaning detergents and seal conditioners. As far as filters go, Fram Ultras are awesome.

ETA: If cost is a factor, I would go with Maxlife blend ($15) and a Toyota or Wix filter($6). Even the Super Tech dino from Walmart is a quality oil for $12 a jug.
 
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I use castrol syn blend 5W-30 and OEM TOYOTA filters every 6 months or 2500 miles. I do 6 month oil change more than 2500 miles!

Replace the filter every time you do an oil change. You can buy an OEM filter for about $3.50 at the dealer or on ebay. Also stick with OEM air filters.
 
All conventional oil is basically the same, buy supertech or whatever is on sale at wally world for less. Changing it is what matters, so change it every 6 months and see how long she runs! Switching to synthetic can expose leaks.

Filters are not all the same. Toyota and Wix are excellent, Purolator classic is great for the price. Fram and all the others that use plastic/cardboard construction are to be avoided.

If you want the technical info behind this bobistheoilguy.com will keep you occupied for days.
 
I have 409k on mine and run valvoline high mileage synthetic blend with no issues... Every other oil change I replace a quart of oil with Marvel Mystery Oil.

Rafal
 
Switching to synthetic can expose leaks.

That simply means you need to change a gasket(normal on an engine with miles), or that you had sludge sealing your leaks. Even modern conventional oils clean sludge which will eventually expose a leak.

Simply put, if you have a leak then stop putting a bandaid over it.
 
That simply means you need to change a gasket(normal on an engine with miles), or that you had sludge sealing your leaks. Even modern conventional oils clean sludge which will eventually expose a leak.

Simply put, if you have a leak then stop putting a bandaid over it.

I though running 15w40 would plug up leaks lol

Yes, I'm joking

Rafal
 
That simply means you need to change a gasket(normal on an engine with miles), or that you had sludge sealing your leaks. Even modern conventional oils clean sludge which will eventually expose a leak.

Simply put, if you have a leak then stop putting a bandaid over it.

True, but I think you're looking at it backwards in this case. If you have stopped bleeding with a bandaid, don't rip it off. Also, band aids are easier to change than rear main seals.

I though running 15w40 would plug up leaks lol

Yes, I'm joking

Rafal

The sad part is that is exactly what most "stop leak" additives are, just super thick oil.
 
I have 409k on mine and run valvoline high mileage synthetic blend with no issues... Every other oil change I replace a quart of oil with Marvel Mystery Oil.

Rafal

What oil change interval are you using? I'm currently debating between Valvoline's HM and Mobile 1's HM, both 5W30.

The Valvoline is a syn blend, and the M1 is full synthetic. I'm wondering if a 6k or so OCI would be OK on either or only the M1.
 
Was a big fan of Amsoil, for a few decades.
- but this Ultra Platinum Pennzoil (Full Synthetic), at half the price is top rated / and use a synthetic oil media filter (WIX XP)
- oil processed from clean Natural Gas base stock

My rule of thumb - buy premium oil & filter, and extended oil changes are easily achieved, in older/higher mileage vehicles.

^^ GREAT INFO kball, this week I ordered WIX 51516XP from RockAuto ($6.92 + shipping US$)

I understand Amsoil Synthetic Oil filters are currently manufactured by WIX / premium filter, not their silver or gold series.
Corresponding Amsoil #EA034 (oversize) is WIX Platinum #5156XP.
- just bought my 2000 4Runner SR5 this year, and dealer did the last oil change
- I run WIX Platinum Oil Filters, in all our vehicles now
- on wife's 2008 RAV4 Limited V6, I use Pennzoil Platinum with Wix XP filter
- after 8-10,000 Km, synthetic oil (from Natural Gas base stock) is still half of its honey color
- on my Gen3 T4R, will be using Amsoil 5W-30 and a synthetic media WIX over-sized XP oil filter
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^^ Congrats jmferg on your prestine Gen3.
- I found a really good 1 owner one (2000 T4R SR5 3.4L) in January, but rare in Northern rust belt areas.
California, has all the good solid iron...he-he.

For the money, better oil out there than Mobil1 / which has probably been reformulated (aka changed).
I use to be sold on Amsoil Synthetic / expensive but very good, at extended oil frequencies.

Vehicle fluids - all I run:
a) Pennzoil Ultra 5w-30 Synthetic / made from clean Natural Gas, as base stock / on-line reviews are fantastic.
- Walmart.com has 5qt jugs, at $27.88 US / free shipping to specified store
b) Amsoil has one of the best synthetic media oil filters, but pricey.
FYI - WIX makes Amsoil premium filters, their Platium XP series / so buy the WIX 51516XP, at RockAuto.com
- larger capacity one, that used in older Land Crusiers
c) Amsoil Severe Gear oil SAE 75w-90 is my top choice
d) Also I use Amsoil Racing Grease / due to extended oil changes.

^^ Easily expect to get 8,000 mile oil changes (or 13,000 Km.) / while the used oil still maintains a cleanish honey color.
 

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I've used Platinum, Ultra, Platinum high mileage and Rotella T6. I also use the larger Motorcraft FL400S filter. All bought at Walmart.


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Been using Mobil 1 high mileage 5w30 and a quart of Lucas oil stabilizer and Toyota oil filter for roughly 5years. Just changed with Castrol magnatec 5w30 since it was direct cheap but any good quality oil is sufficient but stay with the OEM Toyota oil filter.
 
Seems like that "article" was just a listing of about 50 different brands/weights of motor oil.

Yep. It’s just a big ad. See what’s at the bottom of the page?

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