Best time to ditch Dunlops?

[benhar]

I'm almost at 21,000 miles on my '04 Sport and am pretty dissapointed at the amount of wear on my Dunlops. After reading around here I'm pretty much sold on the Revos, but I really don't need to go spend $500+ on tires I don't need yet. But considering how fast these Dunlops are wearing out I know I'll be replacing them sooner than I would most tires.

So, does anyone have any advice on when I should replace these suckers?

Thanks

 

[TranceKrayz]

if you're looking to save money, then wait til they wear out. that way you'll have time to save up for the revos.

 

[Sac State]

My recommendation if you live where it snows is immediately.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showt...p?threadid=7438

 

[benhar]

Thanks for the advice. Snow is not a problem for me though; I'm in south Georgia, so I see snow maybe once every year or so, if that much.

 

[Luxury]

Thanks for asking this question........I was wondering too and have a few more miles than you. I still need to read the godzillion different threads that discuss tires, but revos and BFGs are a good starting point for me. Any other opinions on when or what to replace them with? I don't know about benhar, but I won't be offroad hardly ever, unless our socal group takes me on a 2wd friendly run once in a while..........and the only snow I encounter is on the too-infrequent boarding trips. Then again, when I need to replace my tires, I'll probably try and talk myself into new rims at the same time, so the tire discussion probably changes dramatically when going that route. Sorry for the long-winded post.

 

[Hitman]

My recommendation if you live where it snows is immediately.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showt...p?threadid=7438

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Are you saying that they suck in the snow?

I'm wondering because I have them on my 4Runner and I expect snow any day now here in New York..... Others have said they are a decent tire in snow....

 

[Sac State]

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Are you saying that they suck in the snow?

I'm wondering because I have them on my 4Runner and I expect snow any day now here in New York..... Others have said they are a decent tire in snow....

Maybe in dry powder, but in slush where the groves get clogged, they turn into a greased doughnut.

Damn Dunflops
Dunflop Grandtek AT20's suck! I almost killed myself in the snow storm in Virginia. I hydroplaned across two lanes of interstate and ended up in the medium. Basically, I had NO steering control doing no more than 30 mph in a moderatively heavy snowstorm with little ice accumulation. It was 31* outside, so the ice was slushy.

The VSC and ABS worked flawlessly. Sounded like the cockpit of an airplane before a stall. After coming to a stop halfway down the medium, I was able to maneuver the vehicle back onto the roadway and continue without damage, but damn cheapo tires. The Suburban and Trooper following me kept on plowing. Another Cherokee in front of me completely lost control, at least we were only doing 25-30 and they were able to regain control after spinning 360* twice.

I have never had a vehicle(tire) do that before. Scared me straight, I got home and immediately ordered some Revo's, of course they are on national backorder.

I looked up the Dunlop AT20 on Tirerack. It scored a 3.5 for snow traction, which is borderline unacceptable. I can attest to that. This is an OEM tire? I rotated every 5K miles and checked the pressure religiously.

I agree, no tire can protect against ice, but this was newly fallen snow on a dry interstate.

 

[Hitman]

Maybe you encountered ice under the slushy road?

Unless you have studded snow tires, pretty much any tire will have trouble in those kind of conditions....

 

[benhar]

I don't know about benhar, but I won't be offroad hardly ever, unless our socal group takes me on a 2wd friendly run once in a while..........and the only snow I encounter is on the too-infrequent boarding trips. Then again, when I need to replace my tires, I'll probably try and talk myself into new rims at the same time, so the tire discussion probably changes dramatically when going that route. Sorry for the long-winded post.

Mine is 2wd too. I'm still kicking myself, because at the time I figured I'd never need the 4wd, but I've since come close to getting stuck. I mostly stick to the highway, but I do some very mild offroading every now and then. Plus I run into some pretty muddy dirt roads out in the country.

Originally posted by Sac State I hydroplaned across two lanes of interstate and ended up in the medium. [/B]

Yeah that's another reason I don't like the Dunlops. Even without having ice and snow here, I never feel very secure when driving in the rain. It seems that the slightest puddle in the road will make me loose traction.

 

[gac689]

Stupid Dunlops

Hey Guys,
I too am no big fan of the OEM Dunlops! They hydroplane in even the slightest rain!! I live in Jersey ( hey NY neighbor! ) and we had a little hard, slick snow fall this past Sunday and the Dunlops were horrible. I'm a little nervous about a real snowfall, I was actually looking forward to snow, but now I'm not so sure. I was going to wait until I lifted the Runner and get some bigger tires, but now I don't know what to do...oh well.

 

[gac689]

Siped???

Pardon my ignorance, but what is siped?? Where would I have it done?? (Thanks for the advice

 

[slowginjoe]

I've got about 22,000 miles on my oem Bridgestone Dueler H/T. The couple times I had them in the snow has been no problem. I haven't taken them for serious offroading however, and I don't think they're up for that. I noticed Land Cruiser Prado has these as oems as well. Anyone else with these tires and what do you think of them?

 

[Sac State]

If your really not ready to change them, you could get them siped and that will help a little.

A new AT20 from Tirerack is $60!

Siping would cost more than a third of this price.

Better just bite the bullet and have them replaced with a tire worthy of the Runner and your life.

My Revo's will be in this Friday, yohoo! Shipped all the way across the country. Reno to Raleigh in two days, I love technology.

 

[sharp4runr]

haha, for a bit I thought you were pulling my leg. Ever been Snipe hunting??? :arrow:

 

[bulldog-yota]

If you dont plan on offroading and have little to no snow, you might want to look into good highway all season tires rather than A/Ts. The A/Ts will increase your noise and reduce your MPG over any good All Season tire. Michelin makes the cross terrians and LTXs, which people are happy with. There are a number of other good all season tires out there as well.

I use Revos, my main reason is offroading and highway combined use. I wouldn't have considered them if I only used my 4R for highway. They are noisier and decreased my MPG over the Dunflops. They do grip a lot better on pavement in wet and dry than the dunflops, wont even mention offroad.

 

[benhar]

If you dont plan on offroading and have little to no snow, you might want to look into good highway all season tires rather than A/Ts. The A/Ts will increase your noise and reduce your MPG over any good All Season tire. Michelin makes the cross terrians and LTXs, which people are happy with. There are a number of other good all season tires out there as well.

I use Revos, my main reason is offroading and highway combined use. I wouldn't have considered them if I only used my 4R for highway. They are noisier and decreased my MPG over the Dunflops. They do grip a lot better on pavement in wet and dry than the dunflops, wont even mention offroad.

That's definitely something I need to consider, since my commute to work is 20 highway miles one-way, and I really don't offroad as much as I'd like to. On the other hand, I like my tires to have a nice rugged look to them (my BFG's made a huge difference on my old Explorer).

I guess I need to decide what is more important to me... comfort and practicality or good looks

 

[Border411]

If you live in any of these areas you might want to consider swapping to another tire asasp:

-If you have dry pavement near you
-If you have wet pavement near you
-If there are turns in any of the road near you
-If you drive your truck

I replaced mine (at only 5000 miles-the tires were already shot) because ALL of the above applied, plus I have snow! FYI-Go for the Revos..absolutely freakin awesome on road handling and performance, and off-road they are awesome as well. got mine for $600 from Costco with free lifetime balancing/rotation/rpad hazard warranty.

 

[olliebear]

Dueler H/T reviews...

I've got about 22,000 miles on my oem Bridgestone Dueler H/T. The couple times I had them in the snow has been no problem. I haven't taken them for serious offroading however, and I don't think they're up for that. I noticed Land Cruiser Prado has these as oems as well. Anyone else with these tires and what do you think of them?

I have the H/T 840 as well. NO problem so far with 7,000 miles and rain slick roads. However, go to tirerack.com and click to Bridgestone nad click to see ALL BRIDGESTONE TIRES and got to model 840....just about all the reviews come from owners of very new 4Runners, Sequoias, and Tundras and 9/10 say they stink.

Since I have not had the same issues as the vast majority of owners, I'll run them as far as they SAFELY can and get my money's worth before re-shoddding with better shoes.

Bought brand new set ofg Toyo Open Country A/T D load for my Tahoe and a new set of Toyo PRoxes for the wife's Matrix this summer. OW! :awais:

 

[benhar]

PS, I commute 22 miles one way daily in my 4Runner.

Sad watching those miles add up, isn't it? Good thing it's a Toyota!

If you live in any of these areas you might want to consider swapping to another tire asasp:

-If you have dry pavement near you
-If you have wet pavement near you
-If there are turns in any of the road near you
-If you drive your truck

lol, I think I might qualify

 

[iFORCE]

Has anyone tried the Michelin Cross Terrain SUV tires? I need to replace my stock ones and I'm looking for something that's a good all-season tire. I do mostly city driving so I don't need something too off-road capable. I also experience all conditions... heat, rain, and snow.

Thanks,


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