Bilstein 5100 question

My suspension will be here tomorrow I ordered OME 883 3" springs and tundra bilstein 5100s part number (BSN-24-248730 specific for 3rd gen. I have a few questions left to clear up! So the 5100s are adjustable from 0-2.5" and the 883s are meant for a 3" lift i haven't found he exact answer but I think it is supposed to be on the lowest one. I am assuming that the other settings are for additional lift by preloading the shock. I know that our rigs can't handle anymore than a 3" suspension lift but can someone tell me why! I had to ask this because i have been reading for hours on end for the past couple months. Now that I am starting to do a lot of stuff to my 4runner I will be posting more often
 
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Think of it this way. When doing a suspension lift on an IFS setup, you're basically asking your 4Runner to run around in a constant state of being on its "Tippy Toes" as opposed to having given it stilts to walk on.

By adding lift, you're just pushing down on the suspension to raise the truck. Your control arms, drive axles, ball joints and tie rods are now operating at an extreme angle that they were never designed to constantly be in. This causes major strain and new stress points (angles) on those parts where they may not be "strong enough" to handle it for as long as they otherwise would have.

Add some wheel spacers and you're also stressing your hubs & wheel bearings.

A suspensions lift on an IFS is just plain harder on all of those moving parts. The higher the lift, the more stress you're putting those parts under.
 
I second what is said above and would also like to say. I hope you have a heavy ass front bumper, Because those 883's are stiff as hell. I have them on mine with the tundra 5100's set on the lowest ring. you prolly wont get a full 3 inches ether cause they are the shorter of the 3 that are used on our rigs.
 
What springs should i have went with? Toytec, eibach, or OME 882s i was under the impression that the 882s are the most stiff. Also i still need to know what setting to put the bilsteins on! Also i don't want loads of lift i was just wanting to know why
 
What springs should i have went with? Toytec, eibach, or OME 882s i was under the impression that the 882s are the most stiff. Also i still need to know what setting to put the bilsteins on! Also i don't want loads of lift i was just wanting to know why

We ALWAYS recommend pairing Old Man Emu coil springs with Old Man Emu shocks.

Bilstein shocks with Toytec (Eibach) coils are the way to go!


People have run a combination of Bilstein/OME but we don't recommend it.

Give us a call if you're looking to purchase or have more in depth questions.



Bilstein 5100 lift heights:
1st clip - no lift
2nd clip - 1.25" of lift
3rd clip - 2.5" of lift
 
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Anything more than 2.5"-3" or so lift in front may not only stress suspension components and CV axles, but can also result in tearing a CV boot, from the boot rubbing against itself due to the angle the axles are at.

The previous owner of my 97 had installed Bilstein 5100 Tundra shocks with the Eibach 620 lb coils, and the c clip on the 2nd notch from the bottom. With no extra weight in front, this gave a lift of around 3.25". Even with a 1" front diff drop, the CV axle angles were such that I had rubbing of the CV boot ribs, and one boot eventually tore at the point of the wear from the rubbing.

After my reboot turned into me rebuilding my 20 year old front suspension, since I had it torn apart anyway I went ahead and disassembled my coils and shocks and moved the c clip down one notch to the lowest of the 5 notches.

This configuration now gives me around 2.5" lift up front, and avoids the CV boot rubbing I had before.

From photos I've seen here comparing notch heights for the Tundra vs Tacoma 5100 shocks, 2nd notch from bottom on Tundra one is close to the same height that the Tacoma one gives you on the lowest notch. The Tundra 5100 of course has 5 notches total, vs 3 total on the Tacoma 5100.

So I'm not sure what amount of lift you'd get without additional weight up front with Eibach coils on the Tacoma 5100 shock. Toytec I believe says around 3", but on 2nd notch on the Tundra 5100's I had a little more than that. Might have been less with a lighter weight Eibach coil, rather than the 620 lb ones, who knows.

Anyway, just some info.
 
882's are a 500 pound spring that is 395mm free height
883's are a 590 pound spring that is 375mm free height
not sure if that helps but its info straight from ARB. as far as what ring to put the perch on start at the lowest and see if it gives you the height your looking for and go up from there. Just remember that the higher up you go the stiffer the ride will be and more stress on other stuff.
 
We ALWAYS recommend pairing Old Man Emu coil springs with Old Man Emu shocks.

Bilstein shocks with Toytec (Eibach) coils are the way to go!


People have run a combination of Bilstein/OME but we don't recommend it.

Give us a call if you're looking to purchase or have more in depth questions.



Bilstein 5100 lift heights:
1st clip - no lift
2nd clip - 1.25" of lift
3rd clip - 2.5" of lift
Will the eibach coils support an arb bumper and winch without sagging? and if so what notch should i use the bilstiens on?
 

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