Black Ops II out today

[superman3043]

much better than me, but i too basically only play big team games like domination and big team death match.

Meh... Honestly the only reason it's probably still that high is because I don't play that much. My K/D has been on the decline the more I play. I think it was 1.5 on day one and has dropped that much since. Some of my guys who have always held over a 2 K/D are struggling to maintain a positive K/D in this game. They're all objective players though. I have no tolerance for kill whores. Anybody can camp a corner, choke point or site line and have a big K/D. We play for the win. Selfish players can play alone. We've mainly only played Domination and HC CTF so far in this game. K/D games like TDM are far too campy and slow for me. Kill Confirmed is a decent twist on your old deathmatch game though. We used to play HC S&D strictly on COD4 and WaW. Did a lot of CTF, Domination, Demolition, and moshpit on MW2. Mainly Dom in BO1. Mainly Dom in MW3.

Exactly. I find that even if I camp with a certain corner in my sights waiting for someone they still somehow come round the corner, see me, line me up and kill me before I even have time to pull the trigger. So frustrating. Its gotten a bit better, the first two days were unbelievably bad, but its still got a ways to go. Not to mention the whole 'shoot a guy 7 times and then have him turn around and see you and kill you in one shot' thing that always makes me go WTF?
Seems like camping is much more effective in this one given all the bouncing bettys, claymores and shock charges people seem to use too. more maps would be nice too. Games only been out a couple weeks and Im sick of all the maps already.

Yup! I'm willing to admit when I just get clearly outplayed. But I've played this game long enough to know when the net code is determining the winner of the gunfight, not the players. I never even had a chance lot of the time.

For that equipment you mentioned... Engineer and Blackhat are extremely effective counters. Good luck man!

 

[theizzardking]

Meh...

you on the PS or XBL, if XBL add me man, i've been looking for a clan to play some objective based games with, it always sucks playing with randoms as you very rarely get everyone actually playing as a team, i'm with you, i prefer an point to the game, even kill confirmed is fun as you can make a sacrifice and save 5 tags while only giving up your own , the strategy goes beyond "how do i kill this guy" and requires another layer of thought, good stuff...

i agree on the lag correction as well, you'd think in this day and age of high speed internet everywhere and the fact these sort of games have been played for years now, we could get this figured out, that's why games like counter strike and battlefield tend to have a higher draw for me, as it's more realistic, whoever gets the first shot on target wins, like in real life 90% of the if you get shot once with a .308 your done for....lol....

 

[superman3043]

you on the PS or XBL, if XBL add me man, i've been looking for a clan to play some objective based games with, it always sucks playing with randoms as you very rarely get everyone actually playing as a team, i'm with you, i prefer an point to the game, even kill confirmed is fun as you can make a sacrifice and save 5 tags while only giving up your own , the strategy goes beyond "how do i kill this guy" and requires another layer of thought, good stuff...

i agree on the lag correction as well, you'd think in this day and age of high speed internet everywhere and the fact these sort of games have been played for years now, we could get this figured out, that's why games like counter strike and battlefield tend to have a higher draw for me, as it's more realistic, whoever gets the first shot on target wins, like in real life 90% of the if you get shot once with a .308 your done for....lol....

I play on XBox. I'm sending you a request right now. We're always looking for objective minded players to play with. Half of my guys are good enough to be dedicated slayers but they are still all objective based guys. We want guys taking flags and planting bombs! We'll take a 0.5 K/D and a win over a 30 K/D and a loss any day. Yes, playing objective based games with randoms is aweful... forget about trying to win when you're the only one dying over and over again to take a flag by yourself. So frustrating. Only thing though, is that we've got a core group of guys we run with that take priority over others in the pecking order, then if there is space, we fill it with others. We'd love to have you play with us, I just wanted to make that known up front is that there might not always be room for you if we're full, so please don't take it personal. Now if you prove yourself a beast, then you could certainly become one of those "preferred" guys

Oh, and just another heads up is that we play sort of serious and are fairly organised. Meaning everyone has a job to do. Oh and I tend to rage at times.... Just want to put that all out there in case you get to roll with us, you'll know what to expect, lol.

And yes, the difference that makes CS and BF a more enjoyable, reliable experience... Dedicated servers! Since COD is P2P hosted, we're at the mercy of the host link. Back in like MW2 and earlier days we had a situation were the host always had a slight advantage over folks and guys like me with beast internet reaped the rewards. Then in BO1, they decided to implement a little thing called "lag compensation" to try to level the playing field with the host and it's been a mess ever since. I rewards people with weaker links. I got my first MOAB in MW3 on my in-laws aweful DSL link last year. I'm all for leveling the playing field, but when your coding totally tips the scales in the other direction, it's clearly broken.

Anyway, look for my FR in your inbox.

Hope to get to roll with you soon dawg!

 

[superman3043]

Got to roll with Izz last night and we wrecked kids....

Good playing with ya man! Good times.

 

[bofa]

I agree with the prevalent server side lag issue. It has gotten better but there are still some obvious issues. What I don't like is that it changes my play style when I notice it. I typically move around a lot and am very objective-focused but when I notice the issue I tend to stay in a smaller area and pace a lot or camp.

It seems RNG plays a big role in the outcome of games, but that's always been the case. Enemy gets care pkg with assault drone and you get UAV... ouch.

The new scoring system is interesting. It's nice to get killstreaks for helping with objectives but it's kind of odd to be in a domination game with the most kills, fewest deaths, most captures and defends and not be the top scorer. It's happened twice so far. I can see how it's possible but still a bit puzzling. Same with capture the flag... at times it seems like I'm the only one actually playing both flags and the rest think its a deathmatch but they will still score higher.

A couple of changes I wouldn't mind seeing:
-A timer on some of the aerial support killstreaks. I've been in a few games, on both sides, where 4-5 airstrikes or missiles were back to back and pretty much shut out one team from even having a chance.
-An abandon timer on those that leave mid match. I'll admit I leave bad matches when it's clear that the others are clueless or if I join late and the team is just getting camped. I liked what WoW did with those that abandon pvp matches and I'm surprised Blizz/Activision didn't do this.
-Faster time-outs/boots for people that aren't playing and just milking xp.

The first and second prestige levels are hardest imo... the resets are brutal when you are used to particular setups. But with three permanent unlocks I think once you get to 3 it won't be so bad. I don't see myself grinding out all of the levels though and will probably stop at 3.

My K: D ratio is pretty low too because I play the moshpit mix so kills and deaths are rarely a top priority. I just try to win.

Oddly enough my favorite weapon so far is the TAC-45. :gun6:

 

[theizzardking]

Got to roll with Izz last night and we wrecked kids....

Good playing with ya man! Good times.

yeah man, sorry had to bail, i've been having internet issues for a number of days now, got a guy coming out to fix it tomorrow, i'm down for another rage session once i'm back up and running again, good games man! catch ya later!

-An abandon timer on those that leave mid match. I'll admit I leave bad matches when it's clear that the others are clueless or if I join late and the team is just getting camped.
-Faster time-outs/boots for people that aren't playing and just milking xp.

they do have a penalty timer for leaving matches early, you get banned from online play for 5 mins if you bail on to many matches, it appears to be cumulative as well, with no regards to time length, like i said above i've been having connection problems and have been dropping out of matches due to it, the first 5~6 times nothing happened but now every time it drops i get banned for 5 mins at a time....it doesn't seem to ever reset either, as 24~48 hours later if i get dropped again i get banned again....TBH, that's a pretty cool system...even though my internet provider got raged on hard last night over this.....


my fav is the FAL.....i'm buying the FAL for myself for christmas now, always wanted one and now BO2 has it i just gotta have it haha, i'm a nerd.......to bad no fire selector perk in real life =(
FAL-SA58 Rifles-D S Arms

 

[priestsallore]

If youre on PSN, add me. X_TexanCowboy_X

 

[kmiller8821]

much better than me, but i too basically only play big team games like domination and big team death match.

Same here. Domination has always been one of my favorites because while everyone else is running around killing each other, I stick to the mission. What's funny is that I can usually finish the game in 1 or 2nd place because I've captured the flag the most times. lol. I haven't bought this one yet tho, I kinda got bored after MWII. Same type of stuff just regurgiated over and over. I may end up getting it because my live crew is all playing it. Lately, I've been replaying my dead space games. Can't for the 3rd one to come out. Anyway, if i ever get on with this game I'll throw my gamertag out so I can see whatsup with u guys.

 

[bofa]

yeah man, sorry had to bail, i've been having internet issues for a number of days now, got a guy coming out to fix it tomorrow, i'm down for another rage session once i'm back up and running again, good games man! catch ya later!



they do have a penalty timer for leaving matches early, you get banned from online play for 5 mins if you bail on to many matches, it appears to be cumulative as well, with no regards to time length, like i said above i've been having connection problems and have been dropping out of matches due to it, the first 5~6 times nothing happened but now every time it drops i get banned for 5 mins at a time....it doesn't seem to ever reset either, as 24~48 hours later if i get dropped again i get banned again....TBH, that's a pretty cool system...even though my internet provider got raged on hard last night over this.....


my fav is the FAL.....i'm buying the FAL for myself for christmas now, always wanted one and now BO2 has it i just gotta have it haha, i'm a nerd.......to bad no fire selector perk in real life =(
FAL-SA58 Rifles-D S Arms

That's odd.. I wonder if it's based on a certain frequency. I drop at least 3 games a session and have never been put in time out. I usually play the next one though and will stick with a group so long at the matches are somewhat balanced. I just have no patience people doing anything but the objective. It's their game too I suppose, but I just won't waste my time on it. :beer:

I have not tried the FAL yet. I'm a bit disappointed in the assault rifles still but maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm also really kicking myself for entering prestige 2. Bouncing Betty and C4 are great tools in certain matches, especially when you have to carry some people.

I'll try to add you PSN'ers when I get back on. Look for kokblahk. :biggrin2:

 

[bofa]

I tried the FAL in a few matches last night. It shoots well, but it's a shame you have to grind out the select fire to get full auto. Hopefully it won't take too long.

 

[priestsallore]

My personal preference is the MP7 with fast mag & FMJ. lol. Bofa, add me foo!

 

[-JD-]

. I'm also really kicking myself for entering prestige 2. Bouncing Betty and C4 are great tools in certain matches, especially when you have to carry some people.

You know that you can permanently unlock one item when you prestige, right?

 

[bofa]

You know that you can permanently unlock one item when you prestige, right?

Yeah I used it on guns. :nerd:


Also, I finally got the FAL leveled for select fire and the fire rate is super slow, like a light machine gun. :sleepy: I'm going to work on the Chicom or Evo next I think.

 

[bofa]

My personal preference is the MP7 with fast mag & FMJ. lol. Bofa, add me foo!

I really like the MP7 too and it's been a staple for fast paced fights. I'm hoping some of the high damage subs are just as fun with select fire. I'm just not a big fan of being limited to 3 round burst. I'll add you tonight.

 

[theizzardking]

Yeah I used it on guns. :nerd:


Also, I finally got the FAL leveled for select fire and the fire rate is super slow, like a light machine gun. :sleepy: I'm going to work on the Chicom or Evo next I think.

accuracy>fire rate

i always run the double primary perk, with the FAL/ select fire in the number 1 position and the VECTOR K10 in the secondary.. i find the 3 round burst to be plenty when taking out guys in the medium to short range and then switch to the vector when i'm in close quarters to medium range, seems like a good layout for my style of play.

 

[priestsallore]

Why need 2 primaries when you can snipe people with a pistol?

 

[bofa]

Why need 2 primaries when you can snipe people with a pistol?

lol... so true. One of my favorite setups is with no primary and just a pistol, and use the extra slots for perks. I use it all the time in demolition and capture the flag.

 

[theizzardking]

lol... so true. One of my favorite setups is with no primary and just a pistol, and use the extra slots for perks. I use it all the time in demolition and capture the flag.

haha...

<---not that good, can't hit crap with a pistol IRL from 10 feet and can't hit crap in game land worth a dam either...:uzi:

i'm going to make a load out like that though and have a go and see how i do! haha, give me your best pistol load out!

 

[superman3043]

Update:

Prestige 0/Level 54
K/D Ratio 1.28
SPM 283
Win %82

Still haven't reached prestige yet. Haven't had much time to play, but I'm slowly improving. I noticed the lag/hit detection has improved. Although my group was constantly getting disbanded last night.

Rolled a "Pistol Only" load-out last night and it was awesome! Scored 3505 (350.5 SPM) on my last game 22-8 K/D with 3 flag caps. Not too shabby.

My load-out:

B23R extended mag
Perk 1 greed with hardline and flak jacket
Scavenger
Dexterity
Semtex X2
Black Hat

Pointstreaks:

UAV, Hellstorm Missile, Lightning Strike

I love it! Primaries are pretty unnecessary because you just grab a gun off whatever sucker you kill and with scavenger, ammo isn't an issue (plus it also replenishes your 'nades and equipment). So it's like a grab bag because you could get a shotty or sniper or whatever else that happens to be laying around. Very fun, I'd highly recommend trying a similar load-out.

I've since switched out dexterity and my second semtex for the secondary gunfighter wildcard and the laser, since I just unlocked it, but haven't run with that load-out yet.

 

[bofa]

haha...

<---not that good, can't hit crap with a pistol IRL from 10 feet and can't hit crap in game land worth a dam either...:uzi:

i'm going to make a load out like that though and have a go and see how i do! haha, give me your best pistol load out!

Haha - just takes some repetition. Here's my pistol setup:

Secondary: Tac-45 with Suppressor
Wildcard: Perk 1 Greed
Perk 1: Lightweight and Blind Eye
Perk 2: Cold Blooded
Perk 3: Extreme Conditioning
Lethal: Bouncing Betty
Tactical: Smoke Grenade

You'll find you move faster and for longer than most other people. Use the smoke to help arm/disarm or grab the flag. I use it for a diversion in the other direction sometimes too. Use the betty to either protect your flag or near the crate when defending in demo. Alternatively you can drop it right after grabbing the flag... someone is bound to follow you. Always make cuts in and out when you run. If you are running in a straight line it is very likely you are about to die. :hello:

Scorestreaks I use are Guardian, Lightning Strike, and Sentry Gun. I always place them strategically depending on the game. There's no right answer there though.

Update:

Prestige 0/Level 54
K/D Ratio 1.28
SPM 283
Win %82

Still haven't reached prestige yet. Haven't had much time to play, but I'm slowly improving. I noticed the lag/hit detection has improved. Although my group was constantly getting disbanded last night.

Rolled a "Pistol Only" load-out last night and it was awesome! Scored 3505 (350.5 SPM) on my last game 22-8 K/D with 3 flag caps. Not too shabby.

My load-out:

B23R extended mag
Perk 1 greed with hardline and flak jacket
Scavenger
Dexterity
Semtex X2
Black Hat

Pointstreaks:

UAV, Hellstorm Missile, Lightning Strike

I love it! Primaries are pretty unnecessary because you just grab a gun off whatever sucker you kill and with scavenger, ammo isn't an issue (plus it also replenishes your 'nades and equipment). So it's like a grab bag because you could get a shotty or sniper or whatever else that happens to be laying around. Very fun, I'd highly recommend trying a similar load-out.

I've since switched out dexterity and my second semtex for the secondary gunfighter wildcard and the laser, since I just unlocked it, but haven't run with that load-out yet.

Pistol only is pretty great and can really be used in any game. Just beware of the open maps like Carrier - you have to stick to the perimeter or you will get picked off.... a lot.

The only annoying part with running pistol only is that it depends on your other teammates to take out aircraft. If they aren't doing that you have to switch it up or you will likely lose.