Brake Time

[LinuxHack3r]

It's time to replace brakes on my 2007 SR5 4WD. Just got a quote of roughly $300+ per axle from Toyota, so this is something I'll be doing myself.

Unless needed, I don't see replacing rotors or calipers. I know some people spend hundreds and hundreds to upgrade breaks. All I really want is for them to stop the vehicle, not impress people.

What's typical? I'd love to purchase from either Amazon.com or Advance Auto. If there is no reason to replace rotors, what would you recommend for pads? Do some people buy the replacement pins just to make life a bit smoother?

What does a typical shop charge for turning rotors if needed?

And I know this is the can of worms, but does someone care to link or detail the sticky brake issue that these supposedly have? Is it all vehicles or just luck of the draw? I have noticed sometimes that it seems my brakes sorta "hung" after use but what's the worst this causes? Heat and premature pad/rotor replacement? I haven't ever felt it's been a huge problem.

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At a quick glance, I'd be interested in this purchase:

Bosch BSD976 SevereDuty

Ceramic pads? Less/no dust? Other pros/cons?

Open to any/all suggestions of course. I'd prefer this not be an expensive quest, as new tires are around the corner as well.

 

[Berty_K]

Here’s everything you need from rockauto for front and rear axles.

Feel free to have my discount code for 5% off: 162399549138557916

 

[Drcoffee]

Wow, you really sound like you have never done a brake job. Its not rocket science. But mistakes can cause serious problems. Would you know a seized caliper if you saw one? It not just a matter of slapping pads on and go. Take it to Firestone or Midas. You will have a 50/50 shot of getting it right.

 

[LinuxHack3r]

Here’s everything you need from rockauto for front and rear axles.

Feel free to have my discount code for 5% off: 162399549138557916

Thank you for this and the code.

 

[LinuxHack3r]

Wow, you really sound like you have never done a brake job. Its not rocket science. But mistakes can cause serious problems. Would you know a seized caliper if you saw one? It not just a matter of slapping pads on and go. Take it to Firestone or Midas. You will have a 50/50 shot of getting it right.

Well, I haven't. Doesn't mean I cannot. When did you ever do your first?

Just because I haven't spent hours researching an issue about 4th Gen 4Runner brakes doesn't mean I would or wouldn't recognize an issue if it presented itself. Thanks for those odds, I'd say I have better than that.

 

[LinuxHack3r]

Truth be told, after discovering Rock Auto and the fact that the Power Stop kits are quite a bit cheaper than on their website, I may very well go with this or something similar:

More Information for POWER STOP KC2421

 

[LinuxHack3r]

I notice several different models for the Power Stop kits. I don't do towing, so I figure their "Daily Driver" kit will be perfect? I notice a few differences even amongst those.

Also, I notice on RockAuto Power Stop has an "OEM Replacement" kit. That any good?

 

[importman]

I notice several different models for the Power Stop kits. I don't do towing, so I figure their "Daily Driver" kit will be perfect? I notice a few differences even amongst those.

Also, I notice on RockAuto Power Stop has an "OEM Replacement" kit. That any good?

I want to 2nd the recommendation BertyK gave for the Akebono pads but I used Brembo rotors. If it turns out that you do in fact need to replace the calipers I'd strongly encourage you to upgrade to the larger rotors used on the Sport model T4Rs. I did that and the difference is very noticeable. Much less pedal effort required to slow and stop. Not about impressing anyone, just improving one aspect of my ride.

 

[LinuxHack3r]

Here’s everything you need from rockauto for front and rear axles.

Feel free to have my discount code for 5% off: 162399549138557916

For the life of me, I cannot find where to enter a promo code, and I do IT work for a living.

Do you have to call them, create an account, or something similar?

 

[LinuxHack3r]

I see. I think you just paste it into the "Where Did You Hear About Us" section.

I morphed this thread into a different direction here:

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/295442-2007-sr5-brake-recommendations.html#post3611344

I guess after realizing that I could likely do pads, rotors, and calipers for about $500.00 made it seem like an option. In the past, I thought it was easily a $750.00 to $1,000 deal.

 

[Berty_K]

I see. I think you just paste it into the "Where Did You Hear About Us" section.

I morphed this thread into a different direction here:

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/295442-2007-sr5-brake-recommendations.html#post3611344

I guess after realizing that I could likely do pads, rotors, and calipers for about $500.00 made it seem like an option. In the past, I thought it was easily a $750.00 to $1,000 deal.

I had a similar train of thought. Ended up sizing up my front brakes to 5th gen components off rockauto. After getting my core refund, cost me $350.

 

[Jcmeadows82]

I did the whole upgrade to 5th gen calipers and rotors. Along with the job I did the Brake lines at each corner and the rear intermediate, added speed bleeders to the calipers, replaced all fluid with dot 5.1, replaced rear shoes, replaced all e-brake hardware, used Toyota caliper grease (anti squeak used on back of pads and metal to metal places, and Toyota rubber grease for slide pins.

Below is the breakdown of cost and part numbers I used. When I do the brakes on a new-to-me vehicle, I do it all so I know where it stands.

 

[AuSeeker]

I did the whole upgrade to 5th gen calipers and rotors. Along with the job I did the Brake lines at each corner and the rear intermediate, added speed bleeders to the calipers, replaced all fluid with dot 5.1, replaced rear shoes, replaced all e-brake hardware, used Toyota caliper grease (anti squeak used on back of pads and metal to metal places, and Toyota rubber grease for slide pins.

Below is the breakdown of cost and part numbers I used. When I do the brakes on a new-to-me vehicle, I do it all so I know where it stands.

Am I missing something....your photo shows 4 calipers but the list/price list only has 2 calipers, 1 front and 1 rear?

 

[CarlosV]

Akebono ceramics/ Brembo rotors front 250$

After some reading here and couple of Youtubes I did for the first time brakes in a car. No calipers needed. Only front, brembo non perforated rotors (aprox 150$pair) ,and akebono ceramics (aprox 50$)+ some brake cleaning fluid/antizeise grease (everything Amazon). No sweat. Couples of hours, done by the book. Good break in. Better braking than previous OEM. Not far from the 300$ you were asked for but peace of mind.
(Mine has the small calipers/16 in wheels)

 

[Bluesky 07]

I notice several different models for the Power Stop kits. I don't do towing, so I figure their "Daily Driver" kit will be perfect? I notice a few differences even amongst those.

Also, I notice on RockAuto Power Stop has an "OEM Replacement" kit. That any good?

I have had the PowerStop Z36 kit for several years and it’s been great. Also, PowerStop has a $30 rebate at RockAuto through 31Mar21.

 

[LinuxHack3r]

I'm thinking on this kit. I figure coated calipers should help prevent corrosion which should help prevent seizing. Is that logical?

I think I want to steer clear of slotted/drilled rotors. They theoretically seem great in certain circumstances, but I've read that if they get mud/dirt/etc in them it can wreak havoc.

I picked the pads I did because that's what is in their Z23 Kit. Rotors picked mainly on above recommendation.

Thoughts? Changes?

 

[LinuxHack3r]

I think I'd like to flush all the brake fluid as well. I see DOT 3 or 4 is recommended. I've seen various hints on this forum about supposed "non-Toyota" fluid ruining a seal in the master cylinder, any truth to that?

If not, what fluid should I go with?

I see RockAuto has this.

That is what populates when I select my vehicle. I believe I've seen two quarts, so purchasing three for bleeding may be wise? I'd really like to get this order in today.

I think I'm settled on the PowerStop Coated Calipers, Centrix Rotors, but between the Akebono or PowerStop pads, which should I go for?

 

[LinuxHack3r]

This is the aforementioned thread.

 

[Drcoffee]

Some aftermarket calipers have stainless steel pistons. That would be a big step forward. But also, flush the brake fluid every 1-2 years.

 

[triethylborane]

I think I'd like to flush all the brake fluid as well. I see DOT 3 or 4 is recommended. I've seen various hints on this forum about supposed "non-Toyota" fluid ruining a seal in the master cylinder, any truth to that?

If not, what fluid should I go with?


That is what populates when I select my vehicle. I believe I've seen two quarts, so purchasing three for bleeding may be wise? I'd really like to get this order in today.

I think I'm settled on the PowerStop Coated Calipers, Centrix Rotors, but between the Akebono or PowerStop pads, which should I go for?

That Bosch fluid will be fine, though you could go to the parts store and use any DOT 3 or 4 off the shelf. Ive used valvoline full synthetic and ATE. Too bad ATE super blue cannot be imported, that stuff was great for bleeding. I think I went near 3qt, though YMMV.

Pads . . . either are fine though Ive found akebono to be a bit dirty on other makes.