Camper Trailers for '15 LE

TheHawk4974

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What seems to be the best or most preferred trailer to take camping? We were thinking of a pop-up but really want a hard sided trailer. We also saw this other unit that basically turns a trailer into a tent. I really like the looks of the Baja pop-up that has the rack on the front for wood, fuel, etc.

Any ideas, experiences, and brand names would be appreciated.
 
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How many people are you wanting to take and where do you plan to go: off road, only established campgrounds? Also, what seasons do you intend to use it? Do you need winter capability like insulated heated holding and water tanks?

I think those questions might help you get better answers.

My personal opinion is that travel trailers are poor financial investments. You lose more in depreciation than the cost of nice hotel rooms every night you sleep in it. And you have to store and maintain it which also costs a lot. Add to that the fact that they can be maintenance nightmares because they are almost all build as cheaply as humanly possible, and to me it's preferable to simply rent a camp trailer for the one time a year I want one. Around here I can rent them for about $150/night. Otherwise I tent camp. I watched my parents go from a truck camper through the succession of sizes up to a 30' monster at which point they then decided it cost too much, sold it, and bought a sports car and hotel rooms. Be careful of the "2 foot itch". "If I only had a 2 foot longer one..." Pretty soon you'll be in a $50k trailer and need another $70k diesel truck to tow it.

- take this with a grain of salt from a guy who is building a custom sailboat... talk about a hole to throw money into that depreciates quickly and costs an arm and a leg to store and maintain. But I can't rent a sailboat like mine - that's my only justification to help me sleep at night.

Good luck.
 
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defintitely need some more specifics but since you mentioned this:


Has anyone used a Moby1?

No but if I had the money to spend on a teardrop that would be the one! I have spent a bit of time researching teardrops. Two things for me are they are handbill with quality components (as most others are too) secondly they are a local business for me. The only downside, as with anything custom built, they are typically anywhere from 6 to 12 months out.

There are quite a few other offroad trailers that incorporate rooftop tents instead of the teardrop design that are appealing too, don't discount that if it is an option for you.

You can always build you own too [MENTION=47340]Titanpat57[/MENTION]

Good luck with your quest. Thread Sub'd :-)
 
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There is really cool show coming to the outside of Flagstaff this month called the Outdoor Expedition. You will get a first hand look at what's on the market regarding trailer and other tents.
 
The Moby1 is pretty sweet. I was a bit taken back by the price. Not sure what it would cost to have one custom built, but I'd bet you could have it done cheaper and built exactly to your specs.
 
There is really cool show coming to the outside of Flagstaff this month called the Outdoor Expedition. You will get a first hand look at what's on the market regarding trailer and other tents.

Overland Expo - Overland Expo WEST ? Overland Expo

We'll be there with our Conqueror Compact trailer. The T4R pulls this class of trailer terrifically. The hardest part is selecting from the fantastic range of US builders now.





Good luck. Trailers rock!
 
Teardrop trailer

yes, how many people do you want to put in your trailer?
A friend has a tent trailer but it weighs 2200 pounds empty. It easily sleeps 4. It's larger than the teardrop below but he's towed it with his 4Runner.
So Cal Teardrops makes a good camping trailer. They have 3 sizes.
This link leads to the smaller one. I think the whole thing could be lifted with longer leaf spring shackles. Maybe the shock could be improved. It needs a bumper. Quite a bit less than a Moby1.
https://www.socalteardrops.com/page.php?p=1&t=Home
I wonder how any of these do on stream crossings?
 
Not with T4R but here's mine crossing the Dirty Devil in Utah...
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We have a Flagstaff highwall HW27SC. It's by no means an off-road trailer, but it's a huge pop up. Normal height counters, oven, stove, microwave, fridge, shower, potty....all built in. Weighs about 2700 lbs dry and the Runner pulls it great. On a 6 hour round trip, we still averaged between 17-18 mpg (pretty flat ground, though).

Grant
 

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Talked to Will this weekend and looks like the Wife is having one built whether I want it or not! Funny thing is that we went to look because "I" was interested. Now She's bent on it :tongue1:

They are GREAT people by the way...

Will and I used to work for the same company. Great guy.
 
I have a 2005 Jayco Baja 10Z that I picked up in basically new condition about 5 years ago. $4200 seemed like a very good price at the time and even better as the years go by. No way can I lose much on this trailer. I believe the dealer made a mistake on the advertised price as he listed it for only $3500, said it should have been $5300, so we worked it out.

It has the short front deck, about 30", & was set up with a storage box and generator box, but no generator. It tows beautifully although the tongue weight is a bit high. for the 2012 4R. I will probably install air bags instead of using a weight distributing hitch for simplicity of use and mild off road purposes. Since I'm a dirt bike rider I removed the boxes, covered the front deck with aluminum diamond plate and installed a motorcycle rail and Harbor Freight front wheel chock. I also installed a similar but removable motorcycle rail on the back, used receiver bar material so I can remove it for storage & when it's not needed. I gusseted the Hell out of the connections, tied it in all the way forward to the spring mount. Yes, I know installing weight on the back of a trailer breaks all the rules. With the short wheelbase, overbuilt Baja frame and axles, it tows great. No sway problems whatsoever.

The Baja is extremely comfortable when set up, which is the only drawback I see as it takes 30-45 minutes. Could be done quicker if you have a better crew than I do, mine mostly stands around and watches me work. Water, not power is usually the limiting factor, I think mine is supposed to hold 17 gallons but as delivered overflow worked like a siphon to prevent filling the tank completely, plus 1/2 of remaining water tended to slosh out while driving. I fitted a simple ball valve on the overflow so I could fill tank completely and not lose water on the road. I don't like to s*** where I eat so lack of a toilet is not an issue. Battery life is pretty good when camping but deep cycle batteries tend to deteriorate, since I generally forget to maintain charge when in storage. Heater will draw battery down if used a lot, we don't.

I would buy it again in a heartbeat.

All in all it's a great setup, maximum comfort and space for given towing/storage size and purchase price. Around 15 mpg on the highway, pretty good for an RV. It never fails to amaze me what nice meals we manage, often in pretty inclement conditions. Only dealbreaker I can see is if you or your significant other require actual luxury. The
Baja is very comfortable but ain't a Prevost by a long shot
 
I have a 2006 Fleetwood Mesa. Pulls great with the 4Runner. Look on craigslist and buy a used clean camper that was barely used. They are pretty reasonable price wise.

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our old conqueror :)

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ditto others what type is what to narrow down
do you want to go off road on rougher roads and even some trails then a true off road setup

off road types like the conqueror or other converted trailers that use RTT setups
some that use OZ style tents that are way lower and have a larger annex room which are super cool
BushRanger Trailers | Kakadu Camping

some tear drops can be tough or not so they are in between but for couple no kids tear drops are cool

baja or ones that you can take on graded roads and some rougher roads but have to be careful and wont be built as tough a true off road trailers
be warned if you use them a lot off road on rougher washboard they tend to rattle apart

hybrid style like the hard side pop up

and then solid trailers with or without slides
in Australia they do make these hard side that can be taken off road there are two Kimberly in the US
google up Kimberly Kamper Australia and get ready to drool :)
and pay out $100K to get one here :)


ditto the dude that mentioned RPod if I was looking at a full size jump in on rainy day and sleep I would be into those big time with the slide outs you can expand things :)
 
I have a 16' 1973 Coachmen Cadet, hard-side, weight 2310, hitch 265.

Bought it for $300 and then proceeded to put thousands into it to make it boondock ready. It mostly serves as a deer hunting headquarters and zombie apocalypse retreat.

Turned the bathroom into storage + portable toilet. Turned the fridge into a pantry + ice chest. Replaced the forced air furnace with a ventless furnace, then later on a vented no-electricity furnace (Williams 7,400 BTU). Removed the water system except for the sink. Added solar panels on the sides, bulbs all became 12v CFL (and later LEDs as the technology improved). In the next few years I plan to open up the walls and improve the wiring & insulation.

The nice thing about an old trailer is you have no qualms about tearing out what you don't need and putting in what you do. Almost any change is an improvement and you don't worry about dents and dings.
 

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