Carrying extra fuel inside truck
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wadle5
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Although obviously not recomm, for our roadtrip from Moab/canyonlands/tetons/yellowstone I did have one standard NATO jerry can in the rear. Came in handy towards the end of the trip, but I tried to keep it just as a reserve. I left it empty for our roadtrip portion, but did fill it up before every trail outing.
mtomaro
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If you're running to and from the gas station with a can to fill up the lawn mower then no problem. If you're storing it inside for a wheeling trip or extended period of time, I'd advise against it.
BlackWorksInc
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I wouldn't run it in the vehicle because of the fumes, it takes a while to air out that gas smell.
FordyceCreek
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I carry 1-3 all the time. They HAVE to be Nato style, not leaky US style. Make sure they stay up-right. Cannot imagine a situation they would cause a safety issue, if the passenger compartment ruptures that bad you got bigger problems. And to make one burst in a roll over....again you would have bigger problems likely.
Hellamatic
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I wouldn't. Not only is there a stank, but there's the potential of creating a toxic/explosive atmosphere with even a small spill or leak. If there is a spill that causes a high LEL level, sparks created by relays/switches/static electricity/etc will ruin your day rather quickly. Not to mention the possibility of being overcome by the fumes and losing consciousness.
This is a worst case scenario that is rather remote, but possible nonetheless. It's probably ok to carry a small quantity for a short distance, but I wouldn't
This is a worst case scenario that is rather remote, but possible nonetheless. It's probably ok to carry a small quantity for a short distance, but I wouldn't
LandCruiser
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That voice in your head telling you not to do stupid things?
Listen to it.
Listen to it.
Boardmember
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Ultimately THATs the best reason I'm still driving my Tundra instead of a new 4R like my wife!
Engineer
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While I agree with the above that its not advisable I would not hesitate to put my rotopax in the cab for a short time, I had them in the cab for a small off road trip and didn't have a problem. Do I run around daily with them in the back no, would I prefer them on the roof or outside the truck , yes but its not the end of the world.
Each and everyone is willing to take on different risks in life, to name a few that come to mind
*Motorcycle racing/riding
*Running dangerous trails in high mountain terrain
*Down hill mountain biking
*Storing fuel in the Cab
*Cutting off exhaust behind rear axle
*Driving above the advised speed on off ramps
There is no point in doing stupid things in life but if you are careful/conscious of what you are doing I wouldn't loose sleep over it
Each and everyone is willing to take on different risks in life, to name a few that come to mind
*Motorcycle racing/riding
*Running dangerous trails in high mountain terrain
*Down hill mountain biking
*Storing fuel in the Cab
*Cutting off exhaust behind rear axle
*Driving above the advised speed on off ramps
There is no point in doing stupid things in life but if you are careful/conscious of what you are doing I wouldn't loose sleep over it
MyHigh
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I used to know this but, does anyone know the flashpoint of gasoline?
From what I remember it's not all that dangerous in the real world. A full can with little to no vapor room is pretty safe (well within reason) but what I'm getting at is a full can in the cab and a window open is enough to make it pretty benign.
Now in a accident, well that's a different story, but let's face it driving its self is pretty risky so why not add a little excitement:boom:
All that being said, it's better safe then sorry right?
So it's just best to fill the can when you know you will be testing the limits of your vehicles range.
From what I remember it's not all that dangerous in the real world. A full can with little to no vapor room is pretty safe (well within reason) but what I'm getting at is a full can in the cab and a window open is enough to make it pretty benign.
Now in a accident, well that's a different story, but let's face it driving its self is pretty risky so why not add a little excitement:boom:
All that being said, it's better safe then sorry right?
So it's just best to fill the can when you know you will be testing the limits of your vehicles range.
LandCruiser
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Walking into a truck full of gasoline vapors...
Being rear ended and having a full 5 gallon can rupture and shower you with gasoline...
Yeah, none of that sounds particularly appealing to me.
DesertCanyons
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Gasoline in the car
I used to own a 1963 GMC 3/4 ton pickup truck back in the 1970s. It had the gas tank right behind the bench seat inside the cab. The fill cap was outside, right behind the driver's side door. The tank was slim, upright and the width of the cab, behind the seat back. I never smelled gas inside the cab but it was a stupid design. I still see pickups and flat beds with tanks in the cab. In a bad accident with a crushed cab, like a T-bone, it would be sure death and a bad way to die. That's why all pickups and trucks now have the gas tanks under the truck bed. IIRC, gas tanks are designed to break away in really bad accidents.
In the 1960s the Ford Mustang had an interesting design flaw. To make assembly easier there was a pit in the trunk where the gas tank dropped in and it was covered by a metal plate that got screwed down all around the top. In more than a few rear end accidents that tank would come up through the lid and rupture inside the trunk or back seat area with deadly consequences.
Do you remember the Ford Pinto? Have you ever seen any kind of car after a bad rear end accident? The back end is one of the protective crumple zones on a car. It's designed to give and crush, absorbing the energy.
When I go camping the propane tanks all go up on the roof, in a box, tied down loosely so they can't blow off but so they'll fall free if the car rolls. If I were carrying gasoline I'd put that on top too. And I like the idea to fill them up just before going off-road. Dump whatever's left in the gas tank when you get back on the highway.
I used to own a 1963 GMC 3/4 ton pickup truck back in the 1970s. It had the gas tank right behind the bench seat inside the cab. The fill cap was outside, right behind the driver's side door. The tank was slim, upright and the width of the cab, behind the seat back. I never smelled gas inside the cab but it was a stupid design. I still see pickups and flat beds with tanks in the cab. In a bad accident with a crushed cab, like a T-bone, it would be sure death and a bad way to die. That's why all pickups and trucks now have the gas tanks under the truck bed. IIRC, gas tanks are designed to break away in really bad accidents.
In the 1960s the Ford Mustang had an interesting design flaw. To make assembly easier there was a pit in the trunk where the gas tank dropped in and it was covered by a metal plate that got screwed down all around the top. In more than a few rear end accidents that tank would come up through the lid and rupture inside the trunk or back seat area with deadly consequences.
Do you remember the Ford Pinto? Have you ever seen any kind of car after a bad rear end accident? The back end is one of the protective crumple zones on a car. It's designed to give and crush, absorbing the energy.
When I go camping the propane tanks all go up on the roof, in a box, tied down loosely so they can't blow off but so they'll fall free if the car rolls. If I were carrying gasoline I'd put that on top too. And I like the idea to fill them up just before going off-road. Dump whatever's left in the gas tank when you get back on the highway.
KidVermicious
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I've done it. It's not advised, but you do what you gotta do. Make sure the cans seal well, you don't want fumes.
BettysNephew
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Let's just think back a few years (like mid 1960's). There is a very good reason that car manufacturers no longer put the gas tank inside the cab of pick up trucks like they used to. I was on a volunteer fire department and saw the results of that one time. I do not wish to ever relive that vision. Don't do it.
MyHigh
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I most certainly agree with you, there is always that chance of never making it home when we set out in our vehicles. On the off chance that we may encounter such a devastating accident that could rupture a can inside your vehicle it would most certainly make for a bad day. I for one can't stand the cheap plastic cans, therefore I spend maybe too much money for a NATO Wavian jerry can.
Now, it seems everyone is worried about an accident and the potential to be engulfed by flame, however, I think your attention should settle more on the health risk of breathing the fumes of gasoline. That to me has more potential to do harm then catching on fire.
Once again, with that being said, I'd rather be safe then sorry and recommend like mentioned earlier by another member that it would be best to carry an empty can till you reach a certain point that you know there is the potential to run out of gas.
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