Cipa 36500 Rear View Mirror Install

Asmara

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I installed a Cipa 36500 rear view mirror with auto dimming, temperature and compass. It was a technically easy installed and lots of related information available on the internet. My version was slightly different.

I bought an OEM install kit off of a dealer on eBay.

I also reviewed this thread and this thread.
The 36500 install instructions are available from Cipa.

Below is the before and after. You'll note that the mirror is bigger and also black. In one of the threads I reviewed, the guy repainted the mirror to match the factory tan. Since I know that no dealer would do this, I figured I could live with OEM black.

Before and after.
 

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First I removed the map lights and original mirror. The plastic cover for the map lights just pops off. Start on the windshield side and you will see a couple of notches where you can put a screw driver. Next remove the four screws holding up the assembly. Once removed you will see the screw on the underside that holds the rear view mirror in place

Next I glued the mirror mount button to the windshield. I centered it and put it about 2 1/2 inches down. I've seen guys tape the button to the windshield but I forgot the tape and just held it in place for about 3 minutes and let it dry for 10. The mirror has a lot of adjustment so it would be easy to adjust out any error.

map light and mirrors removed
 

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Next I installed the temperature probe.

There is a great spot that meets the installation criteria and looks like it was designed for the mount. It is on the driver's side just in front of the radiator. I ran the wire behind the battery and through the firewall into the drivers side. Fortunately I already had a hole in the firewall where I had run another wire previously. You may have to drill a hole or otherwise finagle the wire through.

Temperature probe mount site before and after
 

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Next I removed the trim piece covering the front pillar (might not be the right term). Note that you'll have to use an impact driver to get out the two screws for the grab handle. I tried with a screwdriver first but no luck. The Dewalt impact driver removed it like a champ. You can see all the locktite on the screw in photo two.

In the corner where the dash meets the windshield there is a gap where I passed the wires. I passed the temperature gauge wires up and the mirror power/ground wires down by jamming my hand into this area under the dash.

grab bar and trim. location to pass the wires
 

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I ran the wires through the grove in the headliner. The wires went through pretty easily. I didn't use a fish tape or anything. I did remove the pins from the 7 pin connector. There is a simple push tab that lets you remove the wires. You'll also note I removed the sun visor to give me a little bit of play in the headliner.

headliner mirror wiring access path
 

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Time to connect the wiring. Somewhere along the line I should have told you to remove the kick plate. This is what you will see.

I used the same ground lug as the factory.

ground location
 

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I wanted the fuses to be accessible so I connected the positive wire to the fuse box with a temporary hack by cutting up a spade connector.

I've ordered a fuse add-on package that I'll install once I get it. The top left unused fuse plug is hot only when the ignition is on which seemed right. The right side is the hot side of the fuse.
 

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I put all the wires back into the 7 pin connector and plugged it into the mirror. Turned the key to on and success. Yep, that was the temperature at the time. Don't visit India in the summer.

Front and side views close up
 

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Thank you for the great write up! Ive wanted one of these too, you may have given me the courage to do it one day.

I was wondering by your name if you were Pakistani or Indian. I have an aunt named Asmara, were Pakistani.
 
Thank you for the great write up! Ive wanted one of these too, you may have given me the courage to do it one day.

I was wondering by your name if you were Pakistani or Indian. I have an aunt named Asmara, were Pakistani.

Neither. I'm a typical American mutt of Polish, native American (Choctaw) and German decent. Asmara is the capital of Eritrea my last posting in the Foreign Service.
 
Mirror pinout


Follow Up Report:


I contacted CIPA for the mirror pin out and they provided it. It was part of a schematic for installing the courtesy light to a +12v switch system. My plan was to hook this up but I recently decided to sell the 4Runner and leave it in India. As I mentioned on a previous post, I have to move back to the US for a year and I can't ship the vehicle. I decided to just buy a new (to me) car (most likely a 4th gen 4runner) and ship that to Turkey from the US.

Here's the pinout

Pin Function
1 Ignition controlled 12 volts
2 Ground
3 Reverse Autodimming Inhibit (optional use).
4 Temperature wire 1 (PN 36500 and 36501 only)
5 Temperature wire 2 (PN 36500 and 36501 only)
6 Ground when door is open for courtesy light function. (Optional)
7 jumper to Ignition controlled 12V (pin 1) or constant 12v if courtesy light function (pin 6) is connected.​

CIPA support could not answer my questions about the type of terminal used in the connector for the mirror. I was hoping to buy some and connect up the courtesy light function (Pin 6) to the dome light so the map lights mirrored the dome light switch setting. I never looked at it so it may require a relay but I think you could get everything up in there without a problem. Pin 7 could be tapped into the factory map lights for the constant voltage. I finally found this guy on ebay who sells wire with the correct terminal. He sells it as power wire but obviously you could use it for anything.

I couldn't get the PDF to upload so here is the text from the instructions after I OCRed it:

PROCEDURE TO WIRE MIRROR TO FUNCTION AS COURTESY LAMPS
Applications: CIPA part numbers 36300, 36301, 36400, 36401, 36500, 36501
It is possible to connect mirror to your vehicle in a way that the map lamps will come on with the door courtesy lamps.

DOOR SWITCH CONNECTION
1. You will have to find the circuit that controls the door lamp function.
2. This circuit must go to ground when the door opens which is common on many cars but not all. My understanding is that the Corvette is positive 12 V when door is open. If courtesy lamp circuit is +12 Volts then a relay needs to be wired into the mirror harness.
3. A second power harness needs to be purchased (CIPA Part Number 36100WIRE).
4. The fused wire is stripped from the non fused ground wire. The ground lead is thrown away.
5. The fused lead is then tapped into the courtesy lamp control circuit using a wire T-Tap (Scotch Loc).
6. The wire is routed up around the instrument panel, up the ‘A’ pillar to the mirror.
7. The door control wire is connected to pin position 6 on the connector that plugs into the mirror.

The power harness, T-Tap and wire ties should be purchased through your local retailer or
CIPAUSA.com.
CIPA Part Number 36100WIRE contains:
1 Power Harness (Power and ground wires)
1 T-Tap
5 wire ties
[Note: Cipa sent me to Outdoor World to buy the 36100Wire part. It was $53. Stick with the eBay guy above]

We do not offer a ready made relay to make the mirror work with positive door switch systems.
Refer to form “How to add a relay to + 12 V courtesy circuit for mirror light courtesy function"
Pin Function
1 Ignition controlled 12 volts
2 Ground
3 Reverse Inhibit (optional use).
4 Temperature wire 1 (PN 36500 and 36501 only)
5 Temperature wire 2 (PN 36500 and 36501 only)
6 Ground when door is open. Door switch for courtesy light function. (Optional)
7 Ignition controlled 12 V or to battery if courtesy light function is desired.

POWER CONNECTION
Pin 7 needs to go to a constant 12 volt source to have the map lamps function in the courtesy mode when the ignition is turned off. The power harness that comes with your mirror kit has a jumper wire between pin 1 and pin 7 to reduce the number of standard hook ups required.
To wire pin 7 to constant 12 volts;
1. Obtain fused power wire PN 36100WIRE from CIPA.
2. Remove terminal from pin location 7 in the connector.
3. Tape over or cut off short jumper wire that goes from pin 1 to pin 7. Leave pin 1 connected to ignition controlled power source.
4. Locate a 12 volt constant power source. Best if power source is on the battery save circuit so if lights are left on they will shut off after 15 minutes when the car is not turned on.
5. The fused wire is stripped from the non fused ground wire. The ground lead is thrown away.
6. The fused lead is then tapped into the power circuit using a wire T-Tap (Scotch Loc).
7. Run the power wire from the source to the mirror following the other installed mirror wiring.
8. Insert the terminal into position 7 of the black connector.
9. Plug connector into mirror.
10. Test courtesy function of mirror.
 

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Forgot one last thing

I forgot this. I looked all over and forever to find the European and Asia compass settings. Here's a pic with the worldwide compass variations for CIPA (and probably any Donnelly) rear view mirror. India uses the factory setting of 8.
 

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Next I removed the trim piece covering the front pillar (might not be the right term). Note that you'll have to use an impact driver to get out the two screws for the grab handle. I tried with a screwdriver first but no luck. The Dewalt impact driver removed it like a champ. You can see all the locktite on the screw in photo two.


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I'm sure glad I found this, I'm having a hard time getting those screws out, and now i know why. Too bad my drill is about as tough as a ladies purse...

do you guys think if i heat it up i can prob get it?
 
looks good, i was gonna get one like that but with the homelink but didnt end up winning on ebay bc they are just way to overpriced... $200+
 
I installed a Cipa 36500 rear view mirror with auto dimming, temperature and compass.

OP, thanks for the excellent writeup! I'm thinking of installing one of these mirrors.

Quick question, to any who installed the Cipa 36500, is it mirror skinny enough for the left and right sun visors to clear? From the pic OP provided it looks like the right side passenger visor would clear fine but the left side driver visor looks like the mirror blocks it from moving towards the windshield.
 
OP, thanks for the excellent writeup! I'm thinking of installing one of these mirrors.

Quick question, to any who installed the Cipa 36500, is it mirror skinny enough for the left and right sun visors to clear? From the pic OP provided it looks like the right side passenger visor would clear fine but the left side driver visor looks like the mirror blocks it from moving towards the windshield.

I haven't had the car for a couple of years (I left it in India) but the mirror is too big but once you angle it for normal viewing (and maybe adjust it lower just a touch) the visors clear just fine.
 

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