Concealed Carry
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bluewolf
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Yes. And I do. My thoughts are that it is essential to me, especially while traveling, as a last-resort safety precaution for myself and my loved ones. However, I despise irresponsible gun owners. My father was very meticulous about teaching us the proper respect that comes with carrying a rifle or a sidearm from a very early age, which I believe has benefitted us immensely. I would never think of drawing a sidearm except as a final resort to an uncompromiseable life-threatening situation, God forbid such a thing to occur, in which case I would not hesitate to follow through. I'm a practiced shot with each of my pistols, but I am not the type who takes them casually.
Those are my thoughts
Those are my thoughts
<my thoughts>
NC has it and I carry one. I don't know why I took so long to get it (the permit) but I have it now and I've always carried in the car especially when travelling. But now I carry most of the time. My motto has always been these:
Better to have my gun and not need it; than to need my gun and not have it.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Seriously though, it makes my wife feel better and practically forced me to go to get my CCW, I've wanted to get it but couldn't see spending the $250 total for the privlege. But now I recommend it to my friends.
Gun ownership is a huge issue as there are some dumb people out there that make it hard for the rest of us. My parents didn't give me the finer points of handling a gun, I had to learn that when I got older and purchased my first handgun. When I have kids they will learn to respect a gun like I was never told. Well they did tell us a bit, but mostly not to touch them period.
I will take my kids out shooting when they are old enough, pistol, rifle, shotgun you name it..
</my thoughts>
sorry geek humor with the HTML-ist brackets
well just to add a little more geek humor, for any Debian users out there
apt-get install CCW_NC
-john
NC has it and I carry one. I don't know why I took so long to get it (the permit) but I have it now and I've always carried in the car especially when travelling. But now I carry most of the time. My motto has always been these:
Better to have my gun and not need it; than to need my gun and not have it.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Seriously though, it makes my wife feel better and practically forced me to go to get my CCW, I've wanted to get it but couldn't see spending the $250 total for the privlege. But now I recommend it to my friends.
Gun ownership is a huge issue as there are some dumb people out there that make it hard for the rest of us. My parents didn't give me the finer points of handling a gun, I had to learn that when I got older and purchased my first handgun. When I have kids they will learn to respect a gun like I was never told. Well they did tell us a bit, but mostly not to touch them period.
I will take my kids out shooting when they are old enough, pistol, rifle, shotgun you name it..
</my thoughts>
sorry geek humor with the HTML-ist brackets
well just to add a little more geek humor, for any Debian users out there
apt-get install CCW_NC
-john
flownosaj
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I had a permit and carried when I worked downtown Pittsburgh on the evening shift. Nothing ever happened, but I felt better. My wife thought it was dangerous and a nusiance.
When we moved to Georgia, I didn't bother to immediately get one. After living there for a few months, my wife and I got into a bad situation driving home late at night when we were stopped at a light. The next morning I went to the County building and got a permit to cary again. My wife didn't mind at all.
Now that I've moved again, I just need an afternoon off to go get one.
When we moved to Georgia, I didn't bother to immediately get one. After living there for a few months, my wife and I got into a bad situation driving home late at night when we were stopped at a light. The next morning I went to the County building and got a permit to cary again. My wife didn't mind at all.
Now that I've moved again, I just need an afternoon off to go get one.
I look forward to the day there is a nation wide carry permit and you won't have to worry about all that leg work.
The leader is coming, in the form of letting off duty policy and eventually retired police carry concealed. They the general public will be able to do it. It is not blood flowing in the streets like most people lead one to believe will happen with CCW permits become available in states.
-john
The leader is coming, in the form of letting off duty policy and eventually retired police carry concealed. They the general public will be able to do it. It is not blood flowing in the streets like most people lead one to believe will happen with CCW permits become available in states.
-john
Iman74
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Here are my feelings and thoughts:
As far as the carry and conceal I have no problems with that. Those that you really have to worry about get guns permit or no permit. If there were laws that said it was illegal, I do not believe they would stop carrying.
Now my other thoughts, I was much like many who are scared of guns, and because of my daughter I said I would never get one. But after shooting a paintball this year I got the itch to go shooting. Knowing at my age a pellet gun would not do it for me I took a gun safety course, and have put in a good amount of time at the range. After doing all that I feel really confident when/if my gun permit ever arrives I can keep a gun in my house safely. There are several steps I am going to take that those that lost children to gun accidents have not.
1. It will remain unloaded.
2. The gun and the ammo will be locked in two separate lock boxes, in separate rooms.
3. The gun will not only be unloaded it will be locked without a magazine, safety on, a trigger lock, and a cable lock.
4. When I think the time is right, I will teach my daughter everything she needs to know about my gun(s). So god forbid her friends or anyone gains access to them, she will know how to load, unload, shoot, lock, etc.
As far as the carry and conceal I have no problems with that. Those that you really have to worry about get guns permit or no permit. If there were laws that said it was illegal, I do not believe they would stop carrying.
Now my other thoughts, I was much like many who are scared of guns, and because of my daughter I said I would never get one. But after shooting a paintball this year I got the itch to go shooting. Knowing at my age a pellet gun would not do it for me I took a gun safety course, and have put in a good amount of time at the range. After doing all that I feel really confident when/if my gun permit ever arrives I can keep a gun in my house safely. There are several steps I am going to take that those that lost children to gun accidents have not.
1. It will remain unloaded.
2. The gun and the ammo will be locked in two separate lock boxes, in separate rooms.
3. The gun will not only be unloaded it will be locked without a magazine, safety on, a trigger lock, and a cable lock.
4. When I think the time is right, I will teach my daughter everything she needs to know about my gun(s). So god forbid her friends or anyone gains access to them, she will know how to load, unload, shoot, lock, etc.
TechWrench
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I live in NYS, and have had a full carry permit for over 20 years. I to wish they would enact a nationwide carry permit system. But, I also am not holding my breath. It is bad enough in NY, as it is now. It depends on what county you live in as to how, when, and what restrictions will be placed on your permit when it is approved.
Iman74 said:
Don't do all of that when you need the gun you won't have it available. They now have small gun safes that work off of your finger print it will except two finger prints (you and wife) but your child can't get into it. (easy quick access when you are awoken in the middle of the night) They are about 18" x 12" and cost around $250.
Biff
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I have a similar dilema, with my gun. How does a homeowner store a gun if that gun is there for protection. One scenerio is you need the gun and only have seconds, how fast are you going to be to retrive the gun, the amo, the magazine, unlock the fun and load it. Its obvious to any idiot that if you have kids you must do the above, but what will you do when you actually need it.
Right now I have a shotgun, which is unloaded, and locked my son is only two but I'm not taking any chances. The above scenrio always bothers me. How do you guys handle it.
Right now I have a shotgun, which is unloaded, and locked my son is only two but I'm not taking any chances. The above scenrio always bothers me. How do you guys handle it.
Iman74 said:
You now don't need a CCW permit to carry in your car in the state of Missouri, but when they changed the law they added that with or without a CCW permit if you have a weapon and you are under the influence it is now a class "D" Felony. It use to be a class "A" misdemeanor. I think that's a good thing, since guns and DUI don't mix. The thing that bothers me is that the state of Kansas is almost as bad as Mass. and Calif. and I have friends in Kansas and it is almost impossible to transport a weapon into Kansas. My problem will be with a CCW on my DL, if I got stopped for a traffic stop the Cop would see that I had a CCW for the State of Missouri and would ask do you have a weapon in the car. No matter what I say I'm screwed since they would search my vehicle and even if it is unloaded and locked up with no Ammo in that area, every little town in Kansas has different laws on transporting weapons so you could still be in violation of the law. I guess I'm never going back into Kansas again. Not a big loss but it pisses me off.
but it pisses me off.
bluewolf
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Biff said:
This can be a touchy subject with many people, so usually I avoid debating about it. Here's my opinion (remember it's only an opinion) and I base it upon how my family treats the issue of children and firearms.
When I was 2 my father kept one loaded pistol for home-protection on the top shelf in his closet. I am sure he still keeps it there. All of his other firearms remained unloaded in an un-locked gun case in our basement. I probably didn't know about the pistol until I was 10 or so, even so it was not any big "mystery" to me at the time. For us kids to be "playing around" with a loaded weapon was not a concern of my fathers. Here's why:
My father was not secretive about firearms, in fact he was very inclusive. I was obviously too young to hunt, but at 4 or 5 yrs I was allowed to help re-load shells, clean his hunting rifles, etc. During that time my father taught me what firearms were that they were deadly weapons and taught me respect for them that I just can't easily sum up in several paragraphs. I had a BB gun at age 5, and I was expected to carry it, use it, and take care of it just the same as I would any rifle. By the time I was 8 or so, I was allowed to participate in target and trap shoots. I knew the seriousness behind what I was doing and I was not about to jepardize my privilages by behaving foolishly. I remember my father telling me about how I might run into friends who were careless around firearms, and he told me what to watch for and what to do if I felt uncomfortable. I knew the basics about firearm safety, the routine check-over when handed one (even if my dad handed me one) and most importantly, I was made VERY aware of what a pistol or rifle could do... I witnessed this all first hand. So, at 10 I began hunting alongside my father and at 13 I was allowed to hunt by myself. At 18 my father gave me my first pistol at graduation. My brother, cousins, etc were raised under similar standards and we all seem to have the same high respect for guns.
The last thing I'm trying to do is brag. I just think (from my own experience) that the best precautionary measures a person with kids can do if they want to feel comfortable keeping firearms in the house is... educate! Education and inclusion eliminates the curiosity and mystery behind "that GUN in the closet".
TechWrench
Senior Member
Gun safety in the home is a BIG issue to me. Fortunately, I have no children in my home so I can keep it hidden from sight, but readily available if necessary. But, when anyone with children visit, I make sure it is locked in the safe until they leave. IMHO there is no excuse for any child to be hurt or worse because of an unsecured firearm in the home. I wish we didn't live in a time where permits and registrations were necessary, (that is a topic for another time), but the reality is many of us do. It is a sad thing when someone exercises their right to own a firearm then fails to accept the responsibility that comes with ownership and somone gets hurt because of it. The rest of us are left defending ourselves for their stupidity.
jj8111
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I live and work in NYC it takes almost 2 years just to get a handgun permit. Let alone a carry permit. 6 months for a permit for a long gun. I keep my firearms upstate so I dont have to deal with the City.
I think if we (NYC) allowed everyone to carry a consealed firearm there would abe a lot less crime. Morons would be less likely to try to mug someone if in the back of there mind they knew there was a very good posibility that the person they were attacking was carrying.
Bernie Getz is my HERO!
I think if we (NYC) allowed everyone to carry a consealed firearm there would abe a lot less crime. Morons would be less likely to try to mug someone if in the back of there mind they knew there was a very good posibility that the person they were attacking was carrying.
Bernie Getz is my HERO!
