Confused about REVO specifications

[nyvram]

I am looking to buy new tires for my 1998 4Runner/4WD. I have looked at advice from this forum and have decided to go with either the REVO or the LTX.

I found the REVO & LTX M/S for a great price ($157 & $159 respectively) at discounttire, but I see there are 2 different models of each at the 265/75/16 size..is there really a difference between passenger car & truck?

Here are the specs right from the discounttire website:

REVO $157 tire

Size P265/75R-16 114S OWL
Warranty 50,000 Miles
UTQG 500AB
Speed Rating S*


REVO $183 tire

Size LT265/75R-16/C1 112S
UTQG 500AB
Speed Rating S*

Any help? I assume the "P" vs. "LT" stands for passenger vs. truck but I don't know what the difference is if the tire size is identical.

Thanks!

PS My main objective is a quiet ride..don't get offroad too much these days..is there a better choice for me?

 

[G.I.G.]

Can't help you out much on the specs, but you are correct, LT is light truck, P is passenger rated. The LT rated tire has a deeper tread depth and more ply's, I believe. They are also capable of handling more PSI for towing.

If you don't go off-roading a ton, don't tow a lot, or don't have any special use for a LT rated tire, I would stick with the "P" rated Revo. I just put a "P" rated set on my 4R and it rides great with no noticeable loss in MPG's. Plus, the extra cost wasn't worth it for me.

 

[Falls]

Can't help you out much on the specs, but you are correct, LT is light truck, P is passenger rated. The LT rated tire has a deeper tread depth and more ply's, I believe. They are also capable of handling more PSI for towing.

If you don't go off-roading a ton, don't tow a lot, or don't have any special use for a LT rated tire, I would stick with the "P" rated Revo. I just put a "P" rated set on my 4R and it rides great with no noticeable loss in MPG's. Plus, the extra cost wasn't worth it for me.

I second that I do travel off road and do tow often . I run P rated Revo's , no issues with that (on second set after 50k miles on 1st set ) , I may have looked into a C rated if Revo was available in that. The LT REVO is an E rated tire , to heavy and harsh ride for our 4R IMO , but you may like them , everyone is different. So in Revo's you only have 2 options.

Even though they are P rated and the higher you go the stronger they get , there is quite a difference in the build / strength between a tire designed for a car , than a truck tire/suv tire even though they are P rated.

As to what Josh (HB 4x4) said about the Nitto's I've heard they are a great tire and if it was more available here I would have tried them. My Uncle (one of them) is a consultant for BFG and was vice president there for 25-20 years he said there biggest competition thats climbing and gaining ground on BFG AT are Nitto's. He actually wanted me to try a set since he knows I have had many sets of BFG's , but it was just to hard to get them.

One last thing about the Revo is the P rated has a 13/32 tread depth and the LT/E rated has a 16/32 tread depth.

 

[nyvram]

Thanks for the responses!

One more questions...Discount tire has offered me a 265/70/16 at the same price as the 265/75/16 on the LTX M/S.

The 75 is LT rated; the 70 is P. However, the 75 is $159 and the 70 is $183 but he's willing to set me up with the 70s for $159/tire.

If I went with the LTX, is it better to get the LT (6ply) vs. the P (4ply) and does the 75 v 70 really matter much?

 

[Thai]

If I went with the LTX, is it better to get the LT (6ply) vs. the P (4ply) and does the 75 v 70 really matter much?

Personal bias: Manly SUVs (aka body-on-frame-axled) should have LT-rated tires. So, if you disagree 100% with this, then stop reading.

If you just use your 4runner for on-road (daily driver) and no off-roading or towing, then i think that P-rated tire is OK. Again, i still prefer LT-rated tire simply for the fact that the 4runner is heavy and you may one day load it up with a lot of cargo/passengers.

If you off-road and/or tow, then LT-rated tire is a MUST in my honest opinion. This is where i disagree with Falls to some degree. Yeah, a person can buy P-rated tire and may get away with some off-roading without issues, but this does not mean that it is a wise thing to do. Sooner or later, one will regret the choice of tire that one made, esp. if one off-roads over rocks. For example, take Josh (HB4x4). He bought P-rated Nittos. This worked fine when he was mainly using his 4runner on-road. However, when he started to take his 4runner off-road, he found the limitations of his tire selection. He could not air down because he feared puncturing his weak sidewall (a knock against Nittos in general, not just P-rated tire). This led to a puncture in his tread area due to lack of plys (P-rated tires have the equivalent of 4-ply strength vs. LT-rated tires that have at least the equivalent of 6-ply strength) and the fact that he could not air down to decrease pressure on the tread. And trust me, a puctured tire is a joykill on the trails!!

Now, which Load Range LT-rated tire should you go wth is up to you. Personally, LT tire with C-load range is probably the best for your 4runner in terms of toughness and ride quality. I am not sure if Load Range C is available in the tires that you are researching. Load Range D is good also. Load Range E is probably overkill, but again, this depends on the type and brand of tire. For example, a Load Range D BFG AT KO is stiffer and heavier than a Load Range E Michelin LTX A/T-2. So, making a global statement that all Load Range E tires are too much is probably not 100% accurate.

My opinion...take it with a grain of salt.

 

[nyvram]

Ok, you've convinced me. I'm going with the LT version of the 265/75/16 since that is the size I have on the 4runner now anyway.

BTW, I joined this forum a year ago and didn't realize my account was active..thats' why it looks like I took forever to send my first message. I"m sure I'll be spamming the forum plenty before long.

I have a red 98 4Runner/SR5/4WD standard, clear front corners & blinkers and really nice aftermarket taillights (the ones that look crystal clear?) Any crystal-clear headlight covers out there?

Also I have K&N air filter, stainless tailpipe, Pioneer stereo/custom sub, indiglo gauges (which I took out..back to factory now) custom pedals and manual switch for the antenna (so it don't get broke in a car wash)

I love this car. The only thing really to go wrong is the keylock mechanism siezed up and I had to pop it out & take it to a locksmith who replaced teh tumblers for $25.

I swapped the timing belt at 140k miles and that's about it.

 

[Falls]

Personal bias: Manly SUVs (aka body-on-frame-axled) should have LT-rated tires. So, if you disagree 100% with this, then stop reading.

If you just use your 4runner for on-road (daily driver) and no off-roading or towing, then i think that P-rated tire is OK. Again, i still prefer LT-rated tire simply for the fact that the 4runner is heavy and you may one day load it up with a lot of cargo/passengers.

If you off-road and/or tow, then LT-rated tire is a MUST in my honest opinion. This is where i disagree with Falls to some degree. Yeah, a person can buy P-rated tire and may get away with some off-roading without issues, but this does not mean that it is a wise thing to do. Sooner or later, one will regret the choice of tire that one made, esp. if one off-roads over rocks. For example, take Josh (HB4x4). He bought P-rated Nittos. This worked fine when he was mainly using his 4runner on-road. However, when he started to take his 4runner off-road, he found the limitations of his tire selection. He could not air down because he feared puncturing his weak sidewall (a knock against Nittos in general, not just P-rated tire). This led to a puncture in his tread area due to lack of plys (P-rated tires have the equivalent of 4-ply strength vs. LT-rated tires that have at least the equivalent of 6-ply strength) and the fact that he could not air down to decrease pressure on the tread. And trust me, a puctured tire is a joykill on the trails!!

Now, which Load Range LT-rated tire should you go wth is up to you. Personally, LT tire with C-load range is probably the best for your 4runner in terms of toughness and ride quality. I am not sure if Load Range C is available in the tires that you are researching. Load Range D is good also. Load Range E is probably overkill, but again, this depends on the type and brand of tire. For example, a Load Range D BFG AT KO is stiffer and heavier than a Load Range E Michelin LTX A/T-2. So, making a global statement that all Load Range E tires are too much is probably not 100% accurate.

My opinion...take it with a grain of salt.

I agree to an extent , everybody has to do what works best for them. One of the issue is I would have like a C rated , but it seems for some reason that it was either P or E on most of the tires is becoming more common. The E tires are 10 ply , pretty damn tough tire, but a little overkill. I personally think C is a very nice compromise . I must admit today I was driving on 3-4 " sharp rocks is what id paved with and is about a mile long ,the road going into the quarry from the back entrance , and it did make me a little nervous . And my Revo's are brand new P's . would have been nice to have a BFG C rated , I left the quarry and spent 3 hours on a road trip ...... so I'm kinda stuck at this point between the 2 .

I have no problem with tougher tires LT-C or P rated . All have their strong and weak points . I very seldom ever air down for my style and places I go. If I was going out wheeling with what I see Josh , Blair , Thai go through I would have different tires , for sure.