CreepCatchers

[-JD-]

Just curious as to others opinions on this. This guy, Dawson Raymond, started this group in Calgary to entrap and film sexual predators.

His facebook following really started to grow and he gained enough momentum that others are wanting to follow his lead and form their own CreepCatcher chapters in their own towns.

Recently a few guys I know locally started doing this.


What do you guys think about this type of vigilante justice?


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[hikenbike]

It's flawed and wrong in too many ways to mention.


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[wallytoo]

It's flawed and wrong in too many ways to mention.


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by flawed, etc., you mean the actions of the perp, right?

 

[hikenbike]

by flawed, etc., you mean the actions of the perp, right?

It's referring to the subject of the OP's post.


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[Bigshankhank]

They should make a TV show based on this premise...

 

[Hepar]

They should make a TV show based on this premise...

Maybe call it To Catch a Creep or something?

 

[Bevo]

 

[Thai]

Just curious as to others opinions on this. This guy, Dawson Raymond, started this group in Calgary to entrap and film sexual predators.

His facebook following really started to grow and he gained enough momentum that others are wanting to follow his lead and form their own CreepCatcher chapters in their own towns.

Recently a few guys I know locally started doing this.


What do you guys think about this type of vigilante justice?


Creep Catcher Calgary ? Yer Done Bud!

So, you secretly film others who film others...then you take actions including physically detaining suspected offenders like the video on the home page?

Somehow that does not sound like a good idea...and can turn catastrophic real fast...what if the offender actually carrying a gun (or other forms of weapons) for protection?

Sorry, bad idea IMHO. I may pretend to be a Navy SEAL in my head, but i ain't a policeman nor do i want to take the law into my own hands.

 

[ndcent]

"Vigilante justice" gave us Zimmerman. I'll pass.

 

[-JD-]

This is why I find this an interesting moral debate. I mean one side of the debate is obvious. Your protecting children from these creeps and doing what the police often cant.

At the same time though this is vigilante justice and comes along with a certain amount of risk, as well as denying these guys the right to 'due process' before, basically, destroying their lives.

I'm amazed though that that side of the debate hasn't been brought up locally. Its been almost universal support so far.

 

[hikenbike]

This is why I find this an interesting moral debate. I mean one side of the debate is obvious. Your protecting children from these creeps and doing what the police often cant.

At the same time though this is vigilante justice and comes along with a certain amount of risk, as well as denying these guys the right to 'due process' before, basically, destroying their lives.

I'm amazed though that that side of the debate hasn't been brought up locally. Its been almost universal support so far.

It's not interesting. It's completely wrong end to end. You live amongst a pack of a-holes. Congratulations!


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[-JD-]

It's not interesting. It's completely wrong end to end. You live amongst a pack of a-holes. Congratulations!

You dont think keeping these guys away from young kids is good?

 

[wallytoo]

You dont think keeping these guys away from young kids is good?

clearly he doesn't.

 

[wallytoo]

Somehow that does not sound like a good idea...and can turn catastrophic real fast...what if the offender actually carrying a gun (or other forms of weapons) for protection?

there are no guns in canada. canada is utopia.

 

[ThorInc]

there are no guns in canada. canada is utopia.

Yes, Canada is Utopia with only legal (wink, wink) firearms.....we also crap gold.

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[hikenbike]

You dont think keeping these guys away from young kids is good?

Protecting children from predators is the job of attentive parents, law enforcement, parents, a community, and parents.


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[wallytoo]

Protecting children from predators is the job of attentive parents, law enforcement, parents, a community, and parents.


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it is the job of parents, period.

depending on law enforcement to do anything other than solve crimes is foolhardy. your personal safety is your responsibility, not law enforcement's.

 

[wallytoo]

we also crap gold.

one reason the US severed its currency relation to the gold standard.

 

[Thai]

Protecting children from predators is the job of attentive parents, law enforcement, parents, a community, and parents.


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Extremely rare, but i agree with Hikenbike 100%. I practice and have conceal carry because police are not usually timely in protecting my family in times of (extreme) need. However, i do not conceal carry to protect others outside my family circle unless extraordinary series of events somehow occurring right before my eyes leaving me no choice but to intervene on someone else behalf.

 

[1engineer]

Protecting children from predators is the job of attentive parents, law enforcement, parents, a community, and parents.


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Parents are responsible for their children.
Police are responsible for enforcing the laws for everyone.
Community is not responsible for anything.

Who here is a parent? They should be the ones who are commenting. I know [MENTION=2]Thai[/MENTION] is and I raised two from birth to 24 and 21 yo currently. I know what it takes to do it right and this vigilante thing is not it. I agree with [MENTION=96581]hikenbike[/MENTION] except the community part.

Now, I could see and encourage a concerned citizen reporting something to the police (white van handing out candy outside of school for example) and I would encourage that but police should take it from there.