There is an interesting discussion of cut vs no-cut bumpers, and I think I have come around to not caring if the bumper needs to be cut. This is based on the need for a gap as described earlier in this thread. Of course a couple of pieces put in for cosmetic purposes would be nice, but either way I would be good with it.
DeMello Gauging interest in an Aluminum front bumper
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Kimapebeau
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Ditto for me: fit 2010-2013, winch compatible, 3 hoop would be cool.
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Most likely in the 45-50lb range like the current 2005-2015 Tacoma bumper
Unfortunately, The design of the front of the vehicle limits that. The over hang of the front grill on both the 2010-2017 4runner and 2016-2017 Tacoma are similar in that in order to get the bumper far enough out to service the winch you would create a lot of leverage on the front of the frame. Plus you would have a bumper that stuck out very far and ruin any gains in approach angle normally afforded with a new off road bumper.
Sure can, this was a concern years ago when the first aftermarket bumpers started showing up on on the market. I was a bit concerned as well. My biggest concern wasn't them not going off but as you stated going off pre-maturely due to the lack of give. But after 10 plus years of customers mounting FJ, Tacoma, 4runner and Tundra plate bumpers to trucks. We have received countless e-mails with pictures included and never heard of a pre-mature deployment. We've seen small fender benders and nothing going off. And we've seen very bad multi vehicle crashes and the air bags go off as intended.
It's far from a scientific research but it's the best any company making bumpers for Toyotas can do.
They're close enough to SD to make it worth a trip. With maybe a side trip off-road someplace in between.
Big bear is only about 1.5 hours past us
Actually, I think the future is aluminum and composite
But baby steps I'm curious what the draw to these winches is? We've had a lot of request for these winches lately? They are very hard to mount in all bumpers unless you have a jeep and expensive. Nothing against them as a winch, just curious why suddenly they are popular?
In my opinion it's a coke verse pepsi thing. Some will love it, some will hate it. We use to build bumpers super close to the metal, super close to head lights and we got tired of head lights being damaged, fenders getting scratched when the trucks go off road. Plus the common concern on weight, why add weight where it's not needed?
When I first saw toyota go to a full plastic front end I was disappointed but then I realized it might be a blessing in disguise. That plastic buffer is nice.
I understand the hesitation to not cut up a 40k truck. But eventually function wins over form.
(short story) sliders use to be 95% weld on when we started, bolt on was rare. People were very hesitant to weld to their new 24k truck. That usually changed the second they went off road and got their first dent in their rocker panel. It use to be very common for someone to have at least one dent and have sliders welded on. Now it's accepted knowledge that if you want to avoid damage then you need to have sliders put on. The good thing is sliders are now 95% bolt on.
Big bear is only about 1.5 hours past us
Actually, I think the future is aluminum and composite
I'm curious what the draw to these winches is? We've had a lot of request for these winches lately? They are very hard to mount in all bumpers unless you have a jeep and expensive. Nothing against them as a winch, just curious why suddenly they are popular?
In my opinion it's a coke verse pepsi thing. Some will love it, some will hate it. We use to build bumpers super close to the metal, super close to head lights and we got tired of head lights being damaged, fenders getting scratched when the trucks go off road. Plus the common concern on weight, why add weight where it's not needed?
When I first saw toyota go to a full plastic front end I was disappointed but then I realized it might be a blessing in disguise. That plastic buffer is nice.
I understand the hesitation to not cut up a 40k truck. But eventually function wins over form.
(short story) sliders use to be 95% weld on when we started, bolt on was rare. People were very hesitant to weld to their new 24k truck. That usually changed the second they went off road and got their first dent in their rocker panel. It use to be very common for someone to have at least one dent and have sliders welded on. Now it's accepted knowledge that if you want to avoid damage then you need to have sliders put on. The good thing is sliders are now 95% bolt on.
For me I already own the zeon 10s from my last JKU.
For me, it's less about the cut and more about the half-gill look of the fog light slits. Function always wins, but fill plates in glass is a win-win.
Simpleman74
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[MENTION=59079]jdemello[/MENTION] Aluminum front bumper under 50lbs? TAKE MY MONEY NOW!!!!
Where did you see that?
Well, I just haven't seen any with hoops. Eg. pics I've seen of the Pelfreybilt ones don't have hoops, and the Hefty Fabworks have just a short bullbar.
I'm interested in any info you have of aluminum 4Runner bumpers with hoops you could post. (pics are great too!)
Hefty:
Pelfreybilt:
Maybe I will just call or go by Pelfreybilt and ask them why.
JSparky
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Hey Jason, any update on this? Loving my steel bumper but wouldn't mind loosing some weight.
graciedad04
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I would love a full replacement 3 hoop in aluminum.
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Brandonium
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For some function wins over form. For others (like me) I just can't stomach chopping up my front bumper only to replace it with a half bumper that makes it even more apparent that I chopped it up. Some people don't really care. These are the same people that screw switches into their dash instead of following a cleaner more integrated approach. Once again, I'm not one of these guys. The 2010-2013's had more options for bumpers with filler plates. We already have many bumper options out there which take the easy route why not make one that addresses the needs/wants of those that want a cleaner more integrated look?
Until such a product comes to market I'll just keep my original front bumper.
Until such a product comes to market I'll just keep my original front bumper.
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