Does using Duel A/C hurt your MPG?

savesheep

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I have an 04 Limited 4runner with the Dual A/C function. It is fantastic! But I'm curious if it kills my gas mileage or not. Anybody have a clue if it runs two seperate A/C systems or is it just smarter and runs more efficiently?

Thanks!
 
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i would ASSume it's just one fan + condenser but with cut-offs in the piping to allow either cold or hot fluid through the system for the air to blow out.

anyway, from what i've read/heard, running AC won't affect gas mileage given the sophistication of engines made today (or something along those lines).

while i don't have dual-zone AC in my T4R, i haven't noticed a decrease in mileage using it in my Pathfinder.
 
The only thing the dual zone A/C in the T4R does is control a damper that will allow different temperature settings on the driver and passenger sides. There is only one compressor, condenser and evaporator in the system.
 
fantastic. so you guys are basically saying that is does not worsen my MPG whatsoever? It's exactly the same as if I didn't have the dual a/c?

Thanks again you guys, ya'll rock!
 
i disagree. using AC def uses more gas vs not using the AC. it may not be a significant amount, but it def uses some gas.

when you hit the a/c button the compressor turns on which makes the idle go up a tad when sitting at a stop. you just might not feel it when you're in motion.
 
mole177 said:
i disagree. using AC def uses more gas vs not using the AC. it may not be a significant amount, but it def uses some gas.

when you hit the a/c button the compressor turns on which makes the idle go up a tad when sitting at a stop. you just might not feel it when you're in motion.

no no. we're not talking about using the a/c as opposed to not using the a/c. we're talking about using the a/c vs. using dual a/c.
 
this should add some fuel to the fire.

Mythbusters tested this myth:

Running a car with air conditioning on is more fuel efficient than running with the windows down.

partly confirmed*

Tests were performed under varying conditions (55 mph versus 45 mph). The 55 mph test used a computer to estimate fuel efficiency based on air intake, not actual fuel consumption, and showed A/C was more efficient. The 45 mph test consisted of running the tank until it was empty, and showed open windows were more efficient.

*Because the original tests were inconclusive, this "urban puzzle" was revisited in episode 38: It is more fuel efficient to use air conditioning when the car is traveling approximately 50mph or more. Otherwise, windows are more fuel efficient.
 
Mole - just to clarify - you are right in that the engine speeds up as a result of turning on the AC, but it is not a direct result. The AC increases the load on the engine (takes power to turn the compressor) whcih would actually decrease the engine speed (RPM's) if it were not for some mysterious intervention. When the AC comes on there is some solenoid (how it used to be done - not sure how it happens anymore) that increases the engine speed to offset the extra load. It is likely done now through a program in the engine computer / mapping. Yes - it does require more gas but I would venture to say a negligible amount.
 
r32 said:


Mythbusters tested this myth:

Tests were performed under varying conditions (55 mph versus 45 mph). The 55 mph test used a computer to estimate fuel efficiency based on air intake, not actual fuel consumption, and showed A/C was more efficient. The 45 mph test consisted of running the tank until it was empty, and showed open windows were more efficient.

Those clowns on Mythbusters usually run horrible tests. My son likes the show, I spend most of the time discussing their flawed tests with him.

Anyway, additional wind drag (resulting from opened windows) goes up with the square of velocity.
 
savesheep said:
Anybody have a clue if the dual A/C system runs two seperate compressors or is it just smarter and runs more efficiently?

I just wanna know if the dual a/c system eats more gas than a regular a/c system.
 
I've also heard this myth, not sure if it's true or not....but having the A/C off and your windows down uses more fuel than using A/C with your windows up. The reasoning is that you lose your aerodynamics with the windows down and the cab acts like a wind scoop. Haven't ever tried it out, I'd think it'd be neglible either way.
 
sbbamafan said:
No more gas used as a result of having 2nd ac controls / system...
thank you sbbamafan.

Yes, the dealership told me that if you're driving around the city, you save gas by using the windows and not the A/C...however driving down the highway, its vice versa.
 
I think any difference in fuel economy..... with or without the A/C........ dual or not is going to be negligible.
 

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