Driveline or brakes??

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SOLVED - Driveline or brakes??

Ok, I’m taking this in a different direction so I started a new thread. Thanks to everyone for your help and ideas so far, I sincerely appreciate it. Here’s the old thread, I’m getting desperate for answers:

www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/124848-stumped-new-brakes-now-odd-clunk-wheel.html

Here’s the Reader’s Digest version:

· I put all new rotors, pads and flushed the brake fluid about a week ago. Used Wearever rotors and Wearever Ceramic pads from Advance Auto parts. I bed the pads in correctly and had no problems. Ran well and stopped fine.

· A few days later, when I had the window down I noticed a slight rhythmic scraping when moving forward coming from the rear driver’s side wheel. More importantly when I would back up there was a loud, deep metallic “clunk” from the same rear driver’s wheel and I could hear it almost feel it binding up and releasing. To be clear it’s not driveline clunk from putting it in Reverse, it doesn’t start clunking until I actually start backing up. I keep the driveline pretty well lubed.

· Put the 4Runner up on a life and pulled the left, rear wheel and caliper. Ran it in reverse on the lift and didn’t notice any binding but did see the run-out on the “new” rotor was way out. Replaced the rotor under warranty and the scraping going forward was gone (it was the rotor scraping against the caliper bracket). Put the caliper & wheel back on and the loud, deep metallic “clunk” from the same rear driver’s wheel was still there when in reverse.

· I’m starting to think it’s nothing to do with the brakes on that wheel because I changed out the rotor, have absolutely no problems going forward and don’t see any scrapes, scratches or wear spots where something could be in contact with the moving rotor/wheel. I never touched the parking brake when doing the brake job and only backed it off a bit when I was experiencing this clunking problem.

· QUESTION: I’m starting to think it’s something in the driveline. Could something be screwed up in the driveline and masking itself as something else at the wheel? Maybe I beat the rotor too hard when removing it for the brake job? If I have something wrong in the diff or a bad u-joint wouldn’t I hear that going forward as well as reverse?
 
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for the next poster....he already lubed up the drive shaft....

I hope you get this resolved my man...its beyond my skill now!
 
Check the shock upper and lower mounts and the trailing link for looseness in the bushings. Also verify that the caliper moves freely on the sliders.
 
Did you verify all the parking brake components inside the center of the disc for condition and security?
 
Check the shock upper and lower mounts and the trailing link for looseness in the bushings. Also verify that the caliper moves freely on the sliders.

I'll check the shock mounts more closely. I didn't see any damage or obvious problems, it was fine until I did the brakes. :cry2:

Did you verify all the parking brake components inside the center of the disc for condition and security?

I compared the two rears and they look exact. I don't see any missing hardware and the shoes don't look worn or scored. I thought the eBrake too but so far I've been wrong.

Even if the tolerance of the Wearaver rotor was not quite to OEM specs I think I'd see some marks or chaffing on the rotor or backing plate, etc.

Here's the real kicker: If I got out of my truck and out a chalk mark on the top of the tire everytime I heard the "clunk" it'd always happen in the same spot, so it's cyclic with the rotation of the tire/rim. It's not a clunk wen putting into gear, I actually have to be backing up (ie: moving).
 
Could you have someone get under the truck as you reverse (in a safe manor obviously) to see if they can spot where the clunk is coming from?
 
I wouldn't think its CV related...

motor mounts? or maybe the weak differential arms...

if its related to rotation of the tires the last thing I can put in my mind is balancing but I'm not sure how it would produce the clunk noise....


(IN TROUBLE SHOOTING its important to remember what was "changed" if the change caused the effect then the change will lead you back to the solution. Good Luck)
 
SOLVED!!

So it turns out it was the parking brake on the driver's side. It needed adjustment and after I backed it all the way off thinking it might be the problem it was waaaay off. It was so loose it would catch and bind when I was backing up. With the rotor off I kept expanding the parking brake shoes until the rotor was super tight then backed it off a few notches, put it all back together and it's perfect. Has to be the strangest problem I've worked on in a long time.


:reddance:
 

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