Matthew Starr said:
ok first of all thank you everyone for your ideas, some of them are hilarious but awesome. ok scotts97T4Rltd im trying to make a race car out of my 4runner because i am a musician at heart and i wanted to be different and unique. and actually removing the a/c gave me the most noticable gain of all the minute mods. and im not going from tech data im going off of, holy crap my runner responds so much better now. also, i dont think youve ever been to CO before cause there's no such thing as humidity here, and i actually took it off because whoever had this thing before me replace the a/c with one that had the wrong clutch pack and broke two fan blades, which is why i now have an electric fan. CSL you live here in denver, ill let you drive my 4runner some time and show you how much of a difference removing the a/c makes. and though all you people may think im stupid for removing all this stuff. individualy all this crap doesnt do much but all together it makes a huge difference. Im actually going to a dyno next month to see how much hp im sittin on right now so i can see how much of a gain my bigger future upgrades make.
ya i could go buy a car but you know what, everyone and there mothers buy cars to go fast. and im trying to be unique and do something not many people have ever done before. instead of critisizing me you should be respecting my ideas and dreams, especially when you all are 4runner owners yoursleves. Im honestly sick and tired of going to bandimere speedway and seeing nothing but mustangs and camaros all day. or seeing another dumbass in a civic. I hate american cars, i hate idiots who put fart cans on their civics and think its fast. While doing all these upgrades i am trying to keep it as stock looking as i possibly can AND NO FART CAN EXHAUST TIPS! so go ahead tell me im stupid but we'll see who has the last laugh when i smoke some redneck in his corvette or run a 12 sec 1/4 mile, and all the while spending less than $20k
Matthew, everyone has dreams. Im not knocking you for that. Im just trying to put everything in perspective for you. You have some very high hopes, which is attainable with large amounts of money. You are smoking crack if you think you are going to be able to run a 12 second quarter mile for less than $20k invested. I bet our 4runners are 1500 lbs heavier than the corvette. you will have to be making 450hp at the wheels(atleast if not more) to be able to run those times. The motors are strong enough to be able to handle those amounts of power, but the drivetrain is not. You will have to upgrade the transmission, the torque converter, the rear end, the axles. These are all weak links. You are looking at basically having to beef everything up to handle the power. And........at the end of the day, even if you have $30k invested in the runner, its still only going to be worth $6,000. Thats the cold hard truth. You are getting a little ahead of yourself.
As far as removing the compressor goes, im gonna call bull**** on that. In order to feel a seat of the pants difference, you are gonna have to gain about 15hp. How are you gonna do that by removing an idler pulley??? You may live in a lower humidity climate, but have you ever thought about when you get in your runner in the rain, and you are wet, or your feet are wet? That water turns into condensation, and ends up on your windshield. if you want to keep a towel with you to wipe it off every 5 mins. go ahead i guess.
I have had years of experience building/modifying all kinds of cars. I have had several 3rd Gen Rx7s, stock twin turbos, and heavily modified single turbo cars, a C5 corvette, several BMWs (3 series, and 5 series) Infiniti G35....and the list goes on. I have worked on, and modified these cars myself. I know what i am talking about. Im not just an internet warrior that has researched stuff, i know first hand. Im just trying to keep you from sinking all kinds of cash in this thing, just to be disappointed when you dont reach your goals.
go ahead and put your runner on the dyno, the dyno doesnt lie. I bet with all the stuff you have done to it as of yet, you will be making 5hp over stock.. that you wont even be able to feel.