Extended Warranties- Worth IT?

4runner423

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So I have two deals on the table: Both Limited 4 Runners V8 with 90k. Both have offered to do the timing belt replacement.

Carmax-
2006- Clean Title- 3 owners- Good Service Record-
Carmax Offering a Warranty up to 150k with a $250 deductible for $1179

Dealership-
2007- 1 accident- 1 Owner-Good Service Record- Owner Continued to drive after accident. Offering a Warranty 3 Years, 36k with no deductible for $1500

Are these warranties even worth it? More inclined to go with the Carmax warranty at this point. Will give me 60K of coverage.

Oh yea, used car dealers are not from this planet.
 
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I don't think they're worth it on a newer Toyota. Put that money away and invest / keep it in a repair fund.

If you do get a warranty, read the fine print and know exact what is and what is not covered.
 
My 2cents is to save your $$$. For the most part 4runners are very reliable. If over 200k miles it might be a good deal. Apply $$$ to upgrades!!!
 
I've never seen one worth it. All extended warranties are is just an insurance policy..A very very very expensive insurance policy. I'll NEVER EVER buy one - no matter what vehicle I buy.
 
It would have been good for me. My speedometer quit working ($400 just for the part) and I have the infamous transfer case actuator leak ($2500). All this and only 72k miles.
 
It would have been good for me. My speedometer quit working ($400 just for the part) and I have the infamous transfer case actuator leak ($2500). All this and only 72k miles.

For everyone it does help...there are over 20 it doesn't help. These extended warranties are backed by the large insurance companies (All State, State Farm, Travelers..etc). They created separate divisions for extended warranties. It is by far thee most profitable insurance policy they sell. And that includes the fact the dealer will get half the cost of the policies.
 
Ill chime in since Im literally in the middle of dealing with an "extended warranty" company.

I bought my 4Runner from a dealership in Houston in July of 2012. Truck was in great shape and I was offered an extended warranty called the Motorist Assistance Plan. Essentially a third party company that would handle any warranty claims. There were three different levels of the warranty to choose from. I chose the most basic, pretty much covered the drive train and thats it. It was $1065 and some change.

Fast forward to last weekend. The 4Runner has developed a roar coming from the rear end, and I noticed a small oil leak on the front of the motor. I took it in to my closest Toyota dealership to have them check it out. They told me that it would be a $122 diagnostic fee if my repairs were not covered by my warranty. My deductible on the warranty is $100, so either way I was going to be paying something for the work.

After doing a diagnostic, the dealership determined that my bearings in the rear differential were bad, and that the seal on the timing chain cover was leaking. I was quoted just under $4k for the repairs.

The dealership submitted the claim to the warranty company to have processed on Monday of this week. The warranty company decided to drag there feet and kept asking for more proof of the failure and wanted the dealership to send pictures of the parts in question. They did not want to have to send an inspector to the dealership because of our "winter storm" we were having. More than likely they just didnt want to have to pay for a third party inspector on top of the repairs.

Finally today, after sending numerous pictures and faxing paperwork back and forth, the warranty company approved the repairs. But not after trying to haggle on the price of the repairs with the dealership. They tried to state that the factory parts were too expensive at not at the current "market price." They basically tried to make the dealership use parts supplied by the warranty company instead of genuine Toyota parts. Thankfully the dealership has some decent people working in the service department and they were able to negotiate the price of their parts down some so that the warranty company would pay for the Toyota parts.

After its all said and done, my repairs have been authorized, the dealership had to order parts which they expect to come in tomorrow. Ill be getting an entire new rear end(axle housing, differential, gears, everything) and pretty much all the gaskets and seals on the motor(including the head gasket) are getting replaced.

In the end, my warranty ended up paying for itself multiple times over. I have read several stories online with other people not being as lucky. I consider myself extremely lucky to have gotten everything worked out so quickly. God was obviously watching out for me. And the people at the dealership went above and beyond what I would have expected of most repair shops(sending pictures and working from home).

For me, it was totally worth the extra $1k, other people will never see a return on their money though. My advise would be to research the warranty company and read all the fine print on what is included. If you can get a factory warranty, go for that instead of an aftermarket one.
 
Finally today, after sending numerous pictures and faxing paperwork back and forth, the warranty company approved the repairs. But not after trying to haggle on the price of the repairs with the dealership. They tried to state that the factory parts were too expensive at not at the current "market price." They basically tried to make the dealership use parts supplied by the warranty company instead of genuine Toyota parts.

That's pretty much standard unless you have a factory warranty.

Read the fine print in your auto insurance policy. It'll say they're allowed to use re-manufactured parts and or aftermarket parts too.
 
Be careful if you are buying a good-at-this-dealership-only warranty, and of course research the parent company of any other warranty company.

Check transfer-ability, refund of unused portion (if truck gets sold or totaled), fine print that negates the big print, etc.
 
I worked at a domestic dealership for a while. The manufacturer extended warranties were worth the money. The third party extended warranties were a scam.

Carmax tried to sell me an extended warranty on my '04 Sienna with 56K miles using the pressure tactic ("All those electrical items?!"). I passed and put the money to good use buying new tires.

As I recall, Carmax has a 30 day bumper to bumper dealer warranty that they'll fix anything within that time frame.

Daren
 
The manufacturer extended warranties were worth the money.

I'll debate that any time you want to. They are NEVER worth the money.

It's a very very high profit item that is designed to make the manufacturer/dealer higher profit for every vehicle they sell...PERIOD. Last figure I looked at....the profit margin is well over 50%. I don't know of too many businesses that have a 50% profit margin. Cut the cost of these things down to about $300 or LESS...then it might a reasonable risk.
 
I don't think they're worth it on a newer Toyota. Put that money away and invest / keep it in a repair fund.

If you do get a warranty, read the fine print and know exact what is and what is not covered.

My 2cents is to save your $$$. For the most part 4runners are very reliable. If over 200k miles it might be a good deal. Apply $$$ to upgrades!!!

I've never seen one worth it. All extended warranties are is just an insurance policy..A very very very expensive insurance policy. I'll NEVER EVER buy one - no matter what vehicle I buy.

Have to agree with these guys....

It is gambling with the odds greatly favoring the house.

This.

Think of it this way: When you buy an extended warranty, you're making a bet with the warranty seller. You're betting that something will go wrong that will require an expensive repair. The seller is betting that nothing will.

The seller wouldn't take that bet if he wasn't pretty sure it was a good one.

You'd be better off putting that $1000 or $1500 into a "rainy day" account in case something does happen. If it does, you've got the $$ to cover the repair. If not, you've got the money.

I know dealers like to scare you by saying that, for example, an ABS repair is $4,000 or a new transmission is $3500. Well, sure it is, if you're foolish enough to have them do it. But one of the nice things about a brand like Toyota is that there are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of independent service facilities that can beat the dealer by a lot, and in my experience, offer a better quality of service to boot.
 
I'll debate that any time you want to. They are NEVER worth the money.

It's a very very high profit item that is designed to make the manufacturer/dealer higher profit for every vehicle they sell...PERIOD. Last figure I looked at....the profit margin is well over 50%. I don't know of too many businesses that have a 50% profit margin. Cut the cost of these things down to about $300 or LESS...then it might a reasonable risk.
Their overall profit margin is figured on vehicles that never use the warranty vs. those that drop a transmission and need a new one 50 miles from when the warranty expires, in other words; an average of sales.

A relative of mine won the extended warranty lottery. He took it in before the warranty expired because the tranny was acting weird. The dealer told him everything was AOK. Then on a trip it dropped the transmission after the warranty expired. But because the trip to the dealer for transmission problems was documented, the dealer lost and had to pay for a new one.

YMMV,

Daren
 
I rolled one into my overall purchase when I got my T4 last year, mainly because it only bumped my payments up maybe $15/month, and because I turned them down with my last 2 vehicles which ended up kicking me in the ass both times. $$$ wise I've rolled halfway through the cost of the insurance after replacing all 4 brake calipers that were leaking and had seized. Fingers crossed for another $1k or so malfunction in the next year to break even

Generally speaking though, I don't necessarily think they are worth it, especially if you can wrench on most components on your own.
 
I'll debate that any time you want to. They are NEVER worth the money.

It's a very very high profit item that is designed to make the manufacturer/dealer higher profit for every vehicle they sell...PERIOD. Last figure I looked at....the profit margin is well over 50%. I don't know of too many businesses that have a 50% profit margin. Cut the cost of these things down to about $300 or LESS...then it might a reasonable risk.



Absolutely not true.

E55 AMG's and any of the 55 AMG's were once allowed to have Chrysler Warranty's. Eventually they found out how much they were losing there a$$'s and will no longer sell the warranties to AMG cars.

I had over $17,000 in warranty work covered at my Mercedes dealer via the Chrysler Warranty.
 
I bought the Toyota Financial extended warranty for $650 through a guy on this site.
Paid for 4 door lock actuators, sunroof, and new exhaust among a few other things. Turned out to be worth several $thousands.

T Financial had sub'ed the servicing of the warranty out to a 3rd party company that was difficult to reach on the phone. The dealer got tired of the drill and had me contact them which sometimes took a day of calling. They would pay by being convinced they were dealing with a real Toyota dealer and then they would give the dealer a Visa card number.

I did get ripped on an extended warranty I bought on a 2001 Acura CL. The reason for the purchase was those cars were having major transmission design issues. Some would fail when the new car was only 50 miles out of the dealership. Acura extended the normal warranty on these problems which made the extended warranty I bought moot. Anyway after my 6th warranty transmission swap out I sold the turkey. Stranded too many times. The 3rd party warranty was transferable but the dealer I traded it to said don't mention it to the new owner. They want to sell him a new warranty.

OK - back on topic...
 
I bought a 60K warranty when I purchased my used 07 4runner. It expired earlier this week. The only thing that was replaced by that warranty was the water pump. For what the warranty cost I could have had the dealer replace 2 water pumps and some other things out of pocket.

Now, what I do like is the dealership in my town offers lifetime powertrain warranty on new vehicles. Since I keep my cars for a VERY long time and likely wont be moving away ever, this would be a good deal.
 

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