Fac Nav installed in my non-jbl T4R!!!!

[dchay]

:driving:Last night I successfuly intalled a factory JBL navigation unit (E7008) and Sirius into my non-jbl 4Runner!!!:driving: A few months ago I bought an 2006 4Runner Sport that didn't come equipped with JBL. Needing an obvious upgrade, my biggest needs were Sirius Radio, GPS, disc changer, and maintaining the factory look. (I sorta think aftermarket looks a bit "ghetto") I did a ton of research and here were my options:
1. Camry Nav (E7003) might have been the easiest solutions since it was plug and play, single disc, but the Green hard buttons would have drove me nuts.
2. Solara nav (E7001) single disc was out too since its buttons are green as well, and needed to upgrade to JBL.
2. Corrola Nav (E7019) single disc has orange/amber hard buttons and would have been plug and play for my non-jbl, but finding one was difficult to find and when I did, the price was too high $800 for a system that was way sub-par compared to all other fac nav units.
3. 4Runner Nav (E7008) Amber lighting, 4 disc, and a perfect fac look. Problem was converting non-jbl to jbl... or at least I thought. I ordered all upgrade harnesses from Steve at the Vancouver Toyota parts dept and now I'm rocking!!! Super easy once you get all the info, which I am happy to share with anyone looking to upgrade their non-jbl 4Runner!

 

[Jed]

I did the same exact install in my 4Runner. I was happy with it for a while, but then I pulled it out, sold it on ebay, and purchased an Eclipse 6620. Now I can watch movies on DVD, I have full control of all functions at all times, and the sound system is incredible. Plus the screen is a little larger than the OEM navigation and it still looks like a factory-installed system.

But you can't go wrong either way....its just that I wanted better sound than the factory system gave me. Plus the full control over functionality is really the other biggie for me.

 

[BamBam]

Jed, did the 6620 fit the factory opening, or did you put in a fit kit around the edges? I just bought an E7019 because I got a good deal (way way less than $800), but I may switch it out if the Eclipse looks better and I can get $600 or so out of it. I always prefer factory look myself, just because it seems to help the vehicle maintain value, and I've never had somebody try to break into my car if the stereo looks to be a factory setup. I don't know why that is. I figure it is because aftermarket stuff is typically easier to get out.

I may end up selling this E7019 and getting something else like you did if I can find something better. I like the idea of kids getting to watch movies, but we have a Pilot with the entertainment system we use for road trips most of the time. I'd like to be able to get to the mountains though and keep the kids quiet!

 

[Jed]

Jed, did the 6620 fit the factory opening, or did you put in a fit kit around the edges? I just bought an E7019 because I got a good deal (way way less than $800), but I may switch it out if the Eclipse looks better and I can get $600 or so out of it. I always prefer factory look myself, just because it seems to help the vehicle maintain value, and I've never had somebody try to break into my car if the stereo looks to be a factory setup. I don't know why that is. I figure it is because aftermarket stuff is typically easier to get out.

I may end up selling this E7019 and getting something else like you did if I can find something better. I like the idea of kids getting to watch movies, but we have a Pilot with the entertainment system we use for road trips most of the time. I'd like to be able to get to the mountains though and keep the kids quiet!

The 6620 has a wider screen than the OEM unit, but since the OEM unit has buttons on the sides of the screen, it fits the dash opening perfectly. The 6620 needs trim plates, but if you install it right, it looks as good as the factory fit. The secret is to set the unit flush or slightly recessed into the dash opening. If you just bolt the original brackets to the 6620 and install it that way, the unit will stick out past the dash opening and it will look like an aftermarket set-up that doesn't quite fit right. But keep in mind that you do install the 6620 in the same exact way that the OEM unit is installed. You even use the same brackets. But like I said, the secret is to modify the brackets so the unit fits flush instead of sticking out of the dash.

BTW, not only can you watch movies on the navigation screen, but it also has outputs for monitors in the back seat. That would definitely keep the kids happy.

 

[BamBam]

Great info. Thanks Jed. I learn something new here everyday. That explains why I see the same unit looking totally different in different 4Runners... it's all the install placement. Good to know. I have bought a couple of cars that had Circuit City installs done (because whoever was selling thought that would help the value for some reason) and I went back to factory, and after digging in to them I realized how stupid they were about the install. It took maybe 10 minutes to remove everything they had done, and the majority of it was done wrong. One of them was in an Isuzu Trooper and they didn't even bother to attach the antenna, because it was like the 4Runner in that the antenna was built into the window.

The guy took a thousand dollars off the lowest price he'd been offered because no matter what Circuit City couldn't figure out why he got no radio and they had given him back a bunch of money to shop around for a repair. He ended up just eating it on the vehicle, I bought a factory six disc changer and head unit for $125 on ebay, bought a new connector at the junkyard for $20 (because they CHOPPED IT OUT and pigtailed in a Sony thing all wrong). What a mess and a half. I wish more people would take their time and do things properly. Geez.

 

[Jed]

Yeah, when I first installed my Eclipse, I wasn't happy with the way it looked compared to the OEM navigation. I knew right away that it stuck out too far and that I would have to find a way to mount it deeper into the dash for the flush look that you have with the OEM navigation. If you ever decide to do it yourself, there's a really easy way to get it just right. If you're interested, let me know and I'll explain.

You can't go wrong with either the OEM or the Eclipse 6620. They are both great. But in my opinion, the 6620 has a big advantage because you can make it fully functional at all times (not with certain functions blocked while you're moving like the OEM navi) and the sound system built into it is MUCH better than the OEM navigation.

The only bad thing is that Eclipse is exiting the aftermarket electronics business, so I'm not sure how long they'll support the current units on the market, with map updates and stuff. But since they make the Toyota OEM navigation units, maybe they will continue updating the maps for their aftermarket units as well. And that's another thing----functionally, the 6620 is about 95% identical to the OEM Toyota navigation. If you know how to use the Toyota navigation, you'll know how to use the Eclipse too. It's operates in the same way.

 

[martini]

3. 4Runner Nav (E7008) Amber lighting, 4 disc, and a perfect fac look. Problem was converting non-jbl to jbl... or at least I thought. I ordered all upgrade harnesses from Steve at the Vancouver Toyota parts dept and now I'm rocking!!! Super easy once you get all the info, which I am happy to share with anyone looking to upgrade their non-jbl 4Runner!

What's the part number for the upgrade harness? Did you do the install yourself? Did you also buy the antenna?

 

[mike07]

How do you install 6620 flush

I'm interested in how you mounted the 6620 flush in the dash. I'm about to install the same unit and I agree it looks way better when it's not sticking out.

 

[Jed]

I'm interested in how you mounted the 6620 flush in the dash. I'm about to install the same unit and I agree it looks way better when it's not sticking out.

Okay, it's really easy. When you look at the brackets that bolt on to each side of the unit, you'll notice that there are small indentations that match the pattern of the original bolt holes perfectly. You can just drill holes at each of those spots to set the brackets closer to the front of the unit, which will make it flush instead of sticking out. You'll also have to tap a small "bump" in the metal bracket down flat before you re-attach the brackets when you're screwing on your newly modified brackets.

I wish I had a picture of the brackets because it would be much easier to describe if I could show you, but once you have the brackets in your hand, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. It's really easy to do and it looks MUCH better when the unit isn't sticking out from the dash.

 

[dchay]

What's the part number for the upgrade harness? Did you do the install yourself? Did you also buy the antenna?

I found out I had to order the Upgrade Harness from Canada. US Toyota parts depts will not sell you the part. Weird right?

Here is a list of all the parts required:

C0069-33007-W1 5 Pin Wire Harness $6.00
C0069-33010-W2 AUX and SW Harness $45.00
C0069-33020-W1 Non-JBL to JBL Harness $48.00
08663-00340 GPS Antenna $70.00
C0069-000G5-W1 Reverse and Speed Harness $5.00

Call Steve. He is the Manager in the Vancouver Parts Dept in Canada. He was very helpful.

Steve Jones
Fixed Operations Manager
Vancouver Toyota
Langley Toyotatown
(P): (604) 530-3156
(F): (604) 530-1471

you'll also need a JBL Amp, either the 4Runner, Sienna, or 07 Seqoiua amp. I found mine on ebay for about $100.

 

[azcowboy]

Yeah, when I first installed my Eclipse, I wasn't happy with the way it looked compared to the OEM navigation. I knew right away that it stuck out too far and that I would have to find a way to mount it deeper into the dash for the flush look that you have with the OEM navigation. If you ever decide to do it yourself, there's a really easy way to get it just right. If you're interested, let me know and I'll explain.

You can't go wrong with either the OEM or the Eclipse 6620. They are both great. But in my opinion, the 6620 has a big advantage because you can make it fully functional at all times (not with certain functions blocked while you're moving like the OEM navi) and the sound system built into it is MUCH better than the OEM navigation.

The only bad thing is that Eclipse is exiting the aftermarket electronics business, so I'm not sure how long they'll support the current units on the market, with map updates and stuff. But since they make the Toyota OEM navigation units, maybe they will continue updating the maps for their aftermarket units as well. And that's another thing----functionally, the 6620 is about 95% identical to the OEM Toyota navigation. If you know how to use the Toyota navigation, you'll know how to use the Eclipse too. It's operates in the same way.

It's interesting you mention that Eclipse is exiting the aftermark business, because, as I was scrolling through this thread, I decided to go to Crutchfield and look this up for my '08, with factory sound system... Crutchfield shows it "discontinued".

 

[mike07]

Thanks Jed, I have the brackets so I think I see what you're talking about. I'm sure it will be clear once I get in there.
Thank you very much for the info I was wondering why some pics of the installs look so good and others stick out.

 

[tkr128]

hey dchay,

Glad to see you got it working! Did you go ahead and install the microphone/right side steering controls as well? That's one of the big features that made me go for the OEM NAV.

 

[dchay]

hey dchay,

Glad to see you got it working! Did you go ahead and install the microphone/right side steering controls as well? That's one of the big features that made me go for the OEM NAV.

Big thank you for helping me get through this! I couldn't have done w/o your help I figured the least I could do is pay it forward to anyone else who needs help :cheers: I haven't installed the right sterring wheel yet. I live in Colorado so I can still talk on my cell phone while driving, at least for now:nerd: I think the next thing for me is to install the rear camera or adding new speakers....

 

[dchay]

hey dchay,

Glad to see you got it working! Did you go ahead and install the microphone/right side steering controls as well? That's one of the big features that made me go for the OEM NAV.

Jed stated earlier, "the 6620 has a big advantage because you can make it fully functional at all times (not with certain functions blocked while you're moving like the OEM navi)" So I successfully downloaded and burned a fully functional 8.1 Nav DVD w/ Override torrent. Looks like I'll be getting the right side steering wheel controls after all. Guess I'll be using GPS, making calls, drinking coffee in the other hand while swerving not to hit any pedestrians...

Seriously though, with so much info and support from this forum, how could anyone consider anything but Fac Nav?

 

[tkr128]

I have that 8.1 with the override also, but the thing I hated about it was having to press "Agree" everytime I started my car up. Thus the reason I went with the plain 8.1. So far I haven't really had a problem with needing to use the NAV while driving although it would be nice. I've been able to successfully program things using the voice recognition system but it's tedious and gets frustrating when it comes to numbers. Apparently I need to pronounce "three" as "eeeeee" or the NAV thinks I'm trying to say "eight".

Good luck with the multitasking!

 

[horn34]

I found out I had to order the Upgrade Harness from Canada. US Toyota parts depts will not sell you the part. Weird right?

Here is a list of all the parts required:

C0069-33007-W1 5 Pin Wire Harness $6.00
C0069-33010-W2 AUX and SW Harness $45.00
C0069-33020-W1 Non-JBL to JBL Harness $48.00
08663-00340 GPS Antenna $70.00
C0069-000G5-W1 Reverse and Speed Harness $5.00

Call Steve. He is the Manager in the Vancouver Parts Dept in Canada. He was very helpful.

Steve Jones
Fixed Operations Manager
Vancouver Toyota
Langley Toyotatown
(P): (604) 530-3156
(F): (604) 530-1471

you'll also need a JBL Amp, either the 4Runner, Sienna, or 07 Seqoiua amp. I found mine on ebay for about $100.

Hey dchay, I'm getting an e7007 unit shortly. Do you know if I need all of those parts for the e7007? I can't really find much info online about it.

 

[gsnake]

Jed stated earlier, "the 6620 has a big advantage because you can make it fully functional at all times (not with certain functions blocked while you're moving like the OEM navi)" So I successfully downloaded and burned a fully functional 8.1 Nav DVD w/ Override torrent. Looks like I'll be getting the right side steering wheel controls after all. Guess I'll be using GPS, making calls, drinking coffee in the other hand while swerving not to hit any pedestrians...

Seriously though, with so much info and support from this forum, how could anyone consider anything but Fac Nav?

So, if I understand correctly - with this older version of DVD loader file the Navigation menu is the old style? I have OEM 8.1 version and my NAV menu looks quite different (and I would say better) than the old one.. Can someone clarify that? And my car is end of 2007 - reading the forums I am not sure if this is even possible to get my NAV overridden.

 

[CookieRoe]

Here is a list of all the parts required:

C0069-33007-W1 5 Pin Wire Harness $6.00
C0069-33010-W2 AUX and SW Harness $45.00
C0069-33020-W1 Non-JBL to JBL Harness $48.00
C0069-000G5-W1 Reverse and Speed Harness $5.00

Call Steve. He is the Manager in the Vancouver Parts Dept in Canada. He was very helpful. .

Just to keep this thread CURRENT and accurate, the above part numbers (starting with "C") are NO LONGER available!

options:
1) pull a harness from 4runner at a salvage yard (good luck with that !)
2) become good at soldering the wires to the pins of the HU!
3) look for an ebay vendor that MAY sell you a harness (look for those who sell the factory NAV units)

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