Farewelll to a trusted friend!

Islands

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I just wanted to check in and say a public farewell to a trusted friend.

We sold our 1997 4WD 4runner today, a vehicle that we bought new and truly loved for the last 10 years. It was a reluctant sale as we actually planned to keep it forever, but we accumulated too many toys, too much to maintain and ran out of garage space etc. In 30 years of car ownership, the '97 has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. It never failed to start or left us stranded and became a trusted friend that we could always rely on, no matter how far from home. The truck was babied and garaged, and upon it's sale the interior and exterior looked like a 2 year old vehicle at most. When my wife took people to lunch they would often ask her if it was a new car!

After 10 years and 90,000 miles we had made only three repairs: 1) new starter brushes, 2) a/c compressor (due to wobble of the pulley bearing on the nose cone, not an internal failure) 3) and new Tokico Trekmaster shocks, which were more of an upgrade than a repair.

Even maintenance items were few: we never had to replace the brakes, timing belt or water pump, and we were only on our second set of tires. (55,000 miles on a set of Michelin LTX's and still not down to the wear bars!) Counting all maintenance and repairs, we averaged only about $150 per year. We bought the truck new for $30,000 and sold it for $10,500, which works out to approx. $2000 cost + $150 maintenance per year, or $180 per month to own the truck over it's lifetime. (<i>not counting the time value of money</i>). <b>Try that with a new car lease!</b>

So why did we finally sell when the Runner still ran and looked like new? We needed a V8 for our increased towing needs, at 6'2" the seating was never ideal for me on long trips, and with everyone now talking on their cell phone (or Crackberry), instead of paying attention to the road, I wanted side curtain airbags for my wife's daily driver.

We shopped very hard for a new 4WD V8 Sport, but were never able to find one WITH side curtain airbags, but WITHOUT the moonroof. (My head hits the ceiling with the moonroof). Now that the 2008's are ALL equipped with the side curtain airbags our chances of finding our option combo has increased, but it was too little too late as we had already been seduced by another marque - the BMW X5 4.4i. Since this has already gotten too long, I'll describe our decent to the dark side in another thread.

Enjoy those Runner's, we'll see you again when the 2010(?) model debuts!!!
 
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Boston_Runner said:
Yeah, when his transmission and I-drive starts to freak out, he will be back.

No I-Drive on mine and I have the updated ZF 6HP26 transmission. (BTW - The X-drive 4WD has amazing performance, but is very complicated, like alll things BMW these days). The new 6 speed step tronic transmission is really state of the art and is the first auto to approach manual trans economy and performance. I spoke with the two most well known ZF rebuilders in the US and neither of them has had to bebuild a 6HP26 since it's introduction on the 2002 BMW 745i. (It's aso used it Bentely's, Maseratis, etc and you can read about it here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_6HP26_transmission).

Having said all the that my X5 came with an extended factory warranty and service contract (no cost to me) that expires in April 2010. So like I said, maybe we'll see you when the 2010 4Runners arrive.
 
Islands, I admire and respect those like you who take care of their cars. Mine are the same way and they look nearly new when I sell them.

I'm not in the market, having just bought a new 2007, but your description of the one you sold has me wishing I could have bought it.

I hear you on the moonroof. That was one option I did not want, as I'm a tall guy, too. Fortunately, I found several in my area without this option.

I would be interested in hearing your opinions of the BMW after you've had a chance to drive it. Hope you enjoy it.

John
 
97 with 90K miles, wow! I'm sure you'll love the X5, heard they're leaps and bounds improved over the 1st gen.

I also hope to join the BMW bandwagon one day, but in the form of a 135i. If I could I would pick up a Z4 M coupe, heard they can be had all day for 40K as BMW is trying to unload them before the new M3 and 135i hits. The only thing that worries me about BMW is being out of warranty.
 
Ghostface80 said:
97 with 90K miles, wow! I'm sure you'll love the X5, heard they're leaps and bounds improved over the 1st gen.

I also hope to join the BMW bandwagon one day, but in the form of a 135i. If I could I would pick up a Z4 M coupe, heard they can be had all day for 40K as BMW is trying to unload them before the new M3 and 135i hits. The only thing that worries me about BMW is being out of warranty.

I've owned BMW cars for the last 10 years. I've done well on repairs since there are lots of used and discount parts sources and I often due the work myself.

The new ones (like my 2004 X5) get tougher because of the complexity of the electronics.

The sum of my 10 years of experience is that the newer BMW's have a much higher incident rate than the old ones, and MUCH MUCH higher than Toyota. The good news is that if you keep them up they drive like new for a VERY long time. I have a 95 540 M-Sport with 152,000 miles that rides and drives much closer to "new condition" than my 97 4Runner w/90K miles.

The Z4 M Coupe is the awesome. If you buy new you have 4 years, 50,000 of FULL warranty and maitenace. You can also extend your warranty 2 years more directly from BMW. I say GO FOR IT. If you have lots of troubles, sell it before your 4 Years is up. If you have somem trouble, but love it, you can extend the warranty by 2 years. If you have NO troubles you can keep it and go bareback, like I have on all of my BMW's until now.

Good lucK!
 

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