First Oil Change 10w-30: any problems?

[michael90630]

I just changed did my first oil change myself at 1233 miles and put in approx. 5.5 quarts of 10w-30 motor oil with a new Toyota oil filter.

I know the Toyota User Manual recommends using 5w-30. I have read a lot of postings in this forum regarding Synthetic vs. petroleum based oils.

I have previously always used Mobil 1 10w-30 Synthetic motor oil on my Nissan Maxima (drove it almosto to 190,000 miles until it was totalled in a crash :-(

So I am a believer in using Synthetic oils and will switch at about 4000 miles.

My question is, because I inadvertently poured in 10w-30 instead of 5w-30, will it be OK to keep it for the next 3k miles when I switch to Synthetic? I live in Southern California and our mild winter is gone. It's spring and temps. are around 60-80 degrees Farenheit.

Thanks...

 

[toybox]

No problem at all, especially since you are entering the warmer part of the year. And really that first number just represents it's "flowability" at start up when the engine and oil are cold, the second represents the "flowability" when warmed up.

 

[TheBlueWave]

My manual states that if 5w30 is not available, 10w30 can be used, but switch back to 5w30 at the next oil change.

 

[michael90630]

Thanks for the inputs.

I am thinking of making one more oil change (petroleum based) before I switch to Synthetic. It might be a good idea to have the local dealer do it. I purchased my vehicle from Northern California. So it might be a good idea to have one oil change done at the local dealer and get the vehicle logged into their database. I believe in doing as much of the maintenance as possible myself. Keep all the receipts of Synthetic motor oil and Toyota oil filter purchases including a detailed log of maintenance.

 

[toybox]

Thanks for the inputs.

I am thinking of making one more oil change (petroleum based) before I switch to Synthetic. It might be a good idea to have the local dealer do it. I purchased my vehicle from Northern California. So it might be a good idea to have one oil change done at the local dealer and get the vehicle logged into their database. I believe in doing as much of the maintenance as possible myself. Keep all the receipts of Synthetic motor oil and Toyota oil filter purchases including a detailed log of maintenance.

The only thing I take my truck to the dealer for is state inspection because they do that for free and just charge for the emissions inspection so it is as cheap or cheaper than any shop. If they find something wrong I have one day to bring it back fixed and then they will put the sticker on for no additional expense. Point is...I don't believe there is any benefit to bringing it to the dealer for anything you can properly do yourself.

I had the engine go in my Sienna (sludge) and had done all the stuff myself. They asked me if I had records and I said yes and that was it, they replaced the engine.

 

[Muffin-Man]

I had the engine go in my Sienna (sludge) and had done all the stuff myself.

This is why you always want to take it to the dealer. They have a little plaque that they earned from training on toyota vehicles I believe it is called "factory authorized" meaning they know a hell of a lot more about your vehicle than you do. Just because you can change your oil every 5k miles doesnt mean you know how to do your own mainenance, which may be why you were in this predicament. I am certain they could have identified the sludge buildup before the engine blew. Also I have never heard of an engine go because of sludge, you must have really F'ed that car up.

I always take it to the dealer every 5k miles and have never had a problem, and they are honest so I trust em.

 

[toybox]

This is why you always want to take it to the dealer. They have a little plaque that they earned from training on toyota vehicles I believe it is called "factory authorized" meaning they know a hell of a lot more about your vehicle than you do. Just because you can change your oil every 5k miles doesnt mean you know how to do your own mainenance, which may be why you were in this predicament. I am certain they could have identified the sludge buildup before the engine blew. Also I have never heard of an engine go because of sludge, you must have really F'ed that car up.

I always take it to the dealer every 5k miles and have never had a problem, and they are honest so I trust em.

Hahahahahaha.....(sigh)..hahahahaha

What do you think it takes a rocket scientist to do oil changes?

And maybe if you knew a little you would know it was TOYOTA'S engineering defect that caused the sludge build up. It is a WELL known issue with the V6 engine in that gen Sienna.

And they don't do oil analysis on your oil when they change it, they just change it. I didn't fuck anything up. I changed the oil as per the recommendations in the owners manual. Why do you think they gave me a new engine with no other questions asked. Oh, by the way the tranny went at 22,000 miles, I guess I caused that too.:bash:

I have as much experience if not a lot more experience doing routine maintainance than half the loser mechanics at the Toyota dealer. Not that it was needed, because I was bored most of the time, but I took auto shop for two years in HS and worked as a mechanic for three years before going to college because it was very unchallenging for me.

You keep giving you're hard earned money to Toyota and I'll keep doing my own maintenance and at least I'll KNOW mine was done right.

 

[wolfgang]

LOL! My dealer charges like $78/hour plus hazardous disposal and shop fees. I thought that was to pay the 18 year old rocket scientists they have doing the oil changes. My local dealer doesn't even have a drive in quick oil change service so you have to make an appointment and leave it there - killing a good 1/2 day. I change the oil and lubricate the vehicle in less than 30 minutes for less than $10 using the correct, quality parts. My bet is that big bulk drum of oil the dealer uses is 10W30 - not even the specified 5W30. Plus I've never undertighted a filter, rounded off a drain plug or gotten oil on the seats/carpet/door panels. I actually had car serviced once where the high paid "tech" had screw driver in his rear pocket which ripped the seat cover and then claimed it was there when I brought the vehicle in --- NOT!

 

[Sac State]

My local dealer only used 10-30. I inquired that Toyota said 5-30 and noted it to Toyota Corporate and now I notice this same dealer is only using 5-30. Is 10-30 cheaper in price than 5-30?

With all the sludge problems of Toyota, I would go with what is recommended by the mfg. not the local dealer trying to make $.10 off of you at an oil change.

 

[michael90630]

The local Toyota dealer is asking for $29.95 for oil change and said it will be done in apporx. 30 minutes. Hope they are using 5w-30 per Toyota's own recommendation.

For basic maintenance - I will continue to do them myself and be assured that the job is done right with quality parts. I would have done the minor transmission service myself if Toyota had not started with this "sealed trasnmission".

 

[Muffin-Man]

Hahahahahaha.....(sigh)..hahahahaha

What do you think it takes a rocket scientist to do oil changes?

And maybe if you knew a little you would know it was TOYOTA'S engineering defect that caused the sludge build up. It is a WELL known issue with the V6 engine in that gen Sienna.

And they don't do oil analysis on your oil when they change it, they just change it. I didn't fuck anything up. I changed the oil as per the recommendations in the owners manual. Why do you think they gave me a new engine with no other questions asked. Oh, by the way the tranny went at 22,000 miles, I guess I caused that too.:bash:

I have as much experience if not a lot more experience doing routine maintainance than half the loser mechanics at the Toyota dealer. Not that it was needed, because I was bored most of the time, but I took auto shop for two years in HS and worked as a mechanic for three years before going to college because it was very unchallenging for me.

You keep giving you're hard earned money to Toyota and I'll keep doing my own maintenance and at least I'll KNOW mine was done right.

Apparently you didn't get what I was saying. When you guys change your own oil in "30 mins" did you also check and top off other fluid in the car, did you look at your tranny and fluid, did you look in the crank case for exessive sludge or carbon deposits, did you look at your injectors for deposits or blockage, did you lube and grease you fittings and suspension components, did you tighten and torque other chassis nuts and bolts. All of this is just off the top of my head, and I am sure there is more.

Just because you took 2 years or auto mechanics in high school, doesn't suddenly make you sound like you know what your talking about. This is why it takes toyota a little longer than 30 mins to do the mainenance.

But hey if you sleep better knowing that you didn't spend the extra money on an AUTHORIZED tech to work on your vehicle and are so concerned that it takes more than 30 mins to check the rest of your vehicle, hey its all on you. I'm happy that I take it to them, they spend on average an hour and a half on it while I'm watching them, and I have no problems or issues.

 

[Kmvreter]

Where's Koz? We need his :corn:

 

[toybox]

Apparently you didn't get what I was saying. When you guys change your own oil in "30 mins" did you also check and top off other fluid in the car, did you look at your tranny and fluid, did you look in the crank case for exessive sludge or carbon deposits, did you look at your injectors for deposits or blockage, did you lube and grease you fittings and suspension components, did you tighten and torque other chassis nuts and bolts. All of this is just off the top of my head, and I am sure there is more.

Just because you took 2 years or auto mechanics in high school, doesn't suddenly make you sound like you know what your talking about. This is why it takes toyota a little longer than 30 mins to do the mainenance.

I got exactly what you're saying and I'll reiterrate, do you think it takes a rocket scientist to change oil?

Or that it takes long years of technical training to know how to do it? Oh and by the way you forgot the three years I spent as a mechanic. Do you think Toyota mechanics get 2 years of training, NOT. Hey, I do my own brakes too, scarey huh.

And Toyota checking your CRANKCASE....bwahahahaha...you gotta be kidding me. All the other stuff, YES I do.

You're obviously intimidated by auto mechanics, I'm not.
YOU definitely need to take yours to the dealer.

BTW, the suspension has no lube or grease requirement, is that what they told you at the dealer?

I'll state unequevically that I am as qualified as ANY toyota mechanic to do basic maitenance and beyond on my truck.

 

[Jacobzky]

injectors? for deposit? sounds like a chevron or shell ad.

they do check those stuff, on their check list, a check mark, thats all. takes a minute to fill those check boxes.

 

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Muffin-Man, do you work for a dealer? You sound like a tv add for local parts and service...

 

[Uneek]

Give me a break! Toyota factory authorized, certified, trained, borned or whatever, the oil changing monkey is no smarter than the average joe with a set of simple hand tools. If you search, you will find that a couple Toyota dealer monkeys screwed up if not a few times, at least twice with members' 4Runners like forgetting to put oil back in or the the drain plug.

Topping off fluids can be done, again, by the average joe who has a bit of auto knowledge. If they don't know the difference between coolant and brake fluid, then sure they should definately have someone else change their oil. If the dealer is going to check my engine for sludge or inspect my fuel injectors, for $30-40 for the oil change, let me know where, I'll be gladly to have to them service my truck even if they're on the East Coast. The only oil change the service writer was able to offer when I had my other Toyota in for a TSB is that their oil change includes some snake oil additive like Slick50 BS. Nothing further.

The only time that the monkey will find something wrong with the vehicle is when he's looking for any additional work the dealer can make money on. If you work on your own car, you'll notice any symptoms before the next service interval.

No dealer is going to pay their mechanic $30-40/hr or whatever they're paid to change oil. Those mechanics are either doing bigger jobs, timing belts, brakes, etc. I'd be willing to bet that not all oil changers are ASE certified either.

 

[Muffin-Man]

Muffin-Man, do you work for a dealer? You sound like a tv add for local parts and service...

Nope just a satisfied toyota customer, and apparently everyone's enemy is the toyota techinician jeeze. I bet I am the only person on this site that will actually support them lol.

 

[toybox]

Nope just a satisfied toyota customer, and apparently everyone's enemy is the toyota techinician jeeze. I bet I am the only person on this site that will actually support them lol.

I never said not to go to a dealer or support them. You implied that the Toy tech was more capable than me and that I f'd up my van somehow. Again, just because you're intimidated by auto mechanics does not mean that others aren't perfectly capable of doing thier own work including things much more complicated than oil changes.

 

[cknsls@adelphia]

Out of this world prices

I had a breakdown and my company car was literally pushed in to the dealership (Ford Taurus) by a local policeman.

It was the alternator and battery. Additonal reccommended services:

Flush Cooling $159.99
Replace fuel filter $67.54
Injector Flush $189.51
Power Steering Flush $106.05
Trans Service $195.48
Drive Belt $90.76

As it was - the alternator and battery was $639.00.

Who in their right mind would pay the dealer what they want for the above maintenance?

The prices are very high!

 

[brad6841]

You know cknsls you bring up a good point about dealers, and some most other quickie lubes. When you bring your vehicle in for a particular service they always try to sell you something else. And they always try to make it sound like the service they are recommending is life or death. If you don't get this done you will spontaneously combust.

That is what I can't stand