First post and a HUGE thank you!

UpL8

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Hello All!

The critical info: 1997 4Runner, 3.4L engine, as far as I can tell it's pretty much stock. I'm the second owner, and the vehicle was a gift with a dubious maintenance history as the first owner was quite ill, but hey, it was a gift, right? I certainly wasn't about to complain.

Now, other pertinent facts: I'm a 47 year old woman, somewhat intelligent and curious enough to try to figure things out. I am finally getting in decent physical shape after an entire lifetime of being morbidly obese, but I am far, FAR from being as intuitive and well-versed in the machinations and abilities of vehicle repair. Given my druthers, I would just as soon drop my vehicle off at a trusted mechanic, get it done by someone else whose passion is being covered in grease and road dirt, cough up the dough and be on my way. Unfortunately, the days where I could do that are over due to my current economic status (yeah, I'm broke most of the time). And I admit, I didn't do much more to the 4Runner than put gas in and rack up the miles - my general lack of luck should have told me all I needed to know on that front....

So when I started experiencing some trouble with the 4Runner belching out bluish-white smoke on start up in the mornings, I started researching the problem on the 'net and virtually every query I googled led me to this forum and that the culprit might be anything from the questionable maintenance history I mentioned, to crudded up valve stem seals, to problems with the rings. All of which totally freaked me out.

Still, the important thing was, I had help - in the form of all of you fabulous folks, who - it seemed - collectively have experienced just about every issue that could be experienced with these vehicles. I took the hint, as well as the dive. I figured that I could/should start with something 'easy'. I decided to at least change the oil since I had no earthly idea when that had last been done.

I went about gathering the needed items - based on what I have read here - and chose Valvoline Max Life oil (please don't flame me on this point, it seemed like the right choice to me; give me a chance to learn a little more from y'all and THEN you can flame me when I do something stupid/questionable), and - and this is critical because I wouldn't have known to do it - I got an oil drain plug gasket from NAPA...see, I can be taught!

This morning, I went out to give an oil change my best shot...and it WORKED! I owe the success to all of you...without the advice given to others with similar issues, and the walk-throughs/tutorials posted, I would still be outside sweating and cussing (not that I wasn't sweating and cussing then, but the key point is that I would still be outside right now).

I won't say it was easy...whoever last changed the oil filter practically welded the thing on, which leads me to believe that the last oil change might have been done at a quick-lube place, so most of my time was spent trying to get the filter off. I really felt that I had no choice but to remove the skidplates, but that didn't take too long and wasn't as daunting as I thought. Of course, I tidied under there for as long as it seemed feasible, and in between wrestling bouts with the filter. I can't imagine that I would have been able to wedge my carcass under the 4Runner a couple of years back when I was much larger, but it was still a tight fit for me, and I am amazed that some of you people can crawl around under similar vehicles so easily!

Once I got everything back together, cleaned up the ENORMOUS mess I made with tools, newspapers, paper towels, at least 40 nitrile gloves and other items, I was ready to try and fire her up. And I was really nervous about it! But, with my heart pounding in my chest, and my eyes squinched shut (to ward off the explosion, of course), I turned the key. The 4Runner fired right up...and still, there was smoke. DAMN IT! Oh wait, it was just a little puff...oh, and now there isn't ANY smoke. OK, let's run it for a few moments and then rev it up some...no smoke? Um, yeah, there's a little smoke, but nothing at all like it was!

Do I think I have totally fixed my 4Runner? Not a chance...I just changed the oil/filter. Spectacular! I think it will help, maybe...and it certainly can't hurt. Will I save up any extra cash for repairs to the valve stem seals? Definitely. Even if it turns out that something else major is awry with the 4Runner, which, given its age and history, is likely, caution should dictate preparedness. But at least I changed the oil on my own, and that's a start!

So, after all of the above, I just want to express my gratitude to everyone here, from other newbies with questions I wouldn't even know how to ask, to the experts who handle every query carefully and thoroughly. I honestly feel great about having done the oil change on the 4Runner...it's a great sense of accomplishment, even though I am disgustingly filthy...I am still smiling. And I can say this sincerely: I could not have done this without you all. Thanks!
 
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I really felt that I had no choice but to remove the skidplates, but that didn't take too long and wasn't as daunting as I thought.

Why not just leave the skid plates off completely. Since you don't sound like you will be off roading in the future but you will be changing the oil again in a few months ... it would be easier just to leave them off altogether.

The are not needed if you are sticking to pavement. This would make your next oil change much easier.

:vader:
 
Excellent point! See...y'all are chock full of info. I didn't even realize I could leave the skidplates off! And you're right, I doubt I'll be off-roading anytime soon, unless someone gives me another 4Runner to just use for that! LOL!

Thanks for the suggestion, and the next time I change the oil I will try to remember that I can leave them off...they sure are clean now though!
 
Congrats on doing your own oil change! I know grown men who still find this too much of a challenge to do themselves! It can only teach you a few things, about yourself, and your vehicle! :trophy:
 
Congratulations as you are well on your way to a life of being a grease monkey and appreciating what you have. I love how descriptive/detail oriented you are with your first post. Thanks for that.
 
Congrats on doing your own oil change! I know grown men who still find this too much of a challenge to do themselves! It can only teach you a few things, about yourself, and your vehicle! :trophy:

I don't trust myself enough to change my own oil, kudos to you!
 
Very cool! Definitely admire someone who doesn't allow new things to intimidate them (right up to turning the key, anyway). It's a great feeling to take ownership of something, tackle it, and step back with a feeling of pride at the accomplishment. And congrats on the weight loss, too!

I would advise to leave the skid plates on (at least the front one) as it does keep water from splashing up into the engine bay if you go through a big puddle so it still has some value.

Other things to check for preventive maintenance:
- Spark plugs
- Timing belt
- Other fluids: transmission, differentials
- Coolant

Not sure what to say about the blue smoke but doubt that the oil change will do anything to stop that. But I think you already knew that...

Here's a resource you might like: 4Runners.org - Maintain it. Mod it.
 
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Your blue smoke is probably the piston rings. They get worn over time and oil will pass through. The general rule is.. blue smoke means you're burning oil, white smoke means you're burning coolant.

And thanks for breaking up that long post into paragraphs! Too many people on the forums will write a novel and not even punctuate it much less divide the thoughts into paragraphs! It was long but easy to read.
 
grammar and punctuation? do mine eyes fool me?

great read and congratulations on the oil change. i too just did my first oil change (on the 4runner, not ever) and it was fun.

<b>protip:</b> if the engine has been running, then the oil will be hot.

that's something i usually tend to forget. not too sure why. now if you don't mind me asking... can we get some pictures? of the runner, of course.
 
Yeah, after I did the oil change I had the oddest urge to get into a fistfight, or eat raw meat or something. I asked a friend if she thought that maybe there was some testosterone in the oil I drained out of my vehicle!

Yep, oil is HOT after being swirled around an engine...found that out under there yesterday. And the thing is, I was telling myself the entire time, "the oil is hot, the oil is hot..." and STILL, when the plug came out, and gravity took over, I got a nice little dose of it over my hand. No residual burn or anything, and I wasn't that surprised at how hot the oil was, I guess I might have been expecting "the blob" to ooze out slowly, but, there wasn't a blob to contend with after all.

Thanks for the comments about my use of the English language, I actually DO write for literary journals in my spare time, so I have to hope that I can adequately use those particular "tools of the trade"; but like with anything else it's a learning process.

I can see how doing maintenance on a vehicle could be fun, when it's not under duress...and I'm looking forward to other projects on my 4Runner as time and money allow. So, expect to see me around here and there!

As for pictures, yeah, I could do that...I haven't thus far, but why not...I will get out and take a few soon...though, as I mentioned in my first post, the 4Runner is pretty much stock, and, it has the dreaded running boards! Eeeek!
 
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New Mexico eh? Wheres about?

I'm in Los Lunas...I moved here just over 5 years ago. I LOVE New Mexico; lived in Santa Fe as a teenager but wouldn't live there again - it's a classic 'nice place to visit', besides, Santa Fe reminds me of my mama, and she's not with us anymore.
 
Very cool! Definitely admire someone who doesn't allow new things to intimidate them (right up to turning the key, anyway). It's a great feeling to take ownership of something, tackle it, and step back with a feeling of pride at the accomplishment. And congrats on the weight loss, too!

I would advise to leave the skid plates on (at least the front one) as it does keep water from splashing up into the engine bay if you go through a big puddle so it still has some value.

Other things to check for preventive maintenance:
- Spark plugs
- Timing belt
- Other fluids: transmission, differentials
- Coolant

Not sure what to say about the blue smoke but doubt that the oil change will do anything to stop that. But I think you already knew that...

Here's a resource you might like: 4Runners.org - Maintain it. Mod it.

I hear ya, on the other items for preventive maintenance! I checked the coolant and added a little to top it off. Still need to check the transmission and differentials fluids - though, I haven't a clue how to check the differentials fluids...I'm sure I can find out here though!

My next project was going to be changing the spark plugs and the air filter, maybe the PCV valve just for good measure as well.

The timing belt...yeah, probably should check that too - once I figure out where that is! While I was under the 4Runner yesterday I did a 'visual inspection' of the belts I was able to see, OK, I lied, I couldn't help it...I actually pushed on them too, just to see if they were frayed or excessively worn or anything. They seem fine, but again, I am far from expert on these things, so I shall delve into the matter further.

Thanks for the advice and feedback here people, I truly appreciate it and I look forward to a time when my own experience might be able to give something back via this forum!
 
Congrats on your first experience with auto mechanics, and welcome to the board.

Regarding the skidplates; I personally would put them back on, if only for the reason that they help improve airflow under the vehicle. These trucks are not all that aerodynamic to begin with, so anything that can be done to make them as aerodynamic as possible, will have a positive effect on fuel economy.

Not that it would be a huge difference, but every little bit helps.
 
Thanks for the advice and feedback here people, I truly appreciate it and I look forward to a time when my own experience might be able to give something back via this forum!

I can't add much advice to you, as I look to here for most of my answers, too, but I needed to say that you are spot-on with this assessment.

Oh, and I believe the timing belt is super hard, but having changed out my other belts myself, and with me being a novice and all, I can say that it is definitely a doable and rather easy task.
 
While your in there changing the plugs it may not hurt to change the valve cover gaskets at the same time. Its seems harder to do then it really is. There's some write ups on that on here aswell as yotatech.com.

Congrats on changing your oil too- personally I thought it was a pain the first time I did mine due to the filter placement.
 
First off i have got to say that i am glad to see the grammar and punctuation, so many tend to forget you write like you speak, usually with a breath in between sentences and such. Anyhow i also want to commend you on taking the plunge and changing your own oil, there are so many people out there men and women that do no even know where to put the oil in at, and that is really no joke as i see it all day long in a parts store. It not only gives you a sense of accomplishment but a different appreciation of your vehicle.
Now as far as the skid plates, it is a little bit of cheap insurance in preventing something from kicking up while driving and damaging something that would have already been protected, only tip, use some never-seize on the bolts that way if you need to remove the skids they will come off that much easier.
The smoke could be due to the piston rings being worn down, also could be yes the valve stem seals, either way it is a pricey fix, just what ever you do make sure that the oil level is checked regularly, to prevent running dry.
The diff fluid is easy to check by the way, there are bolts usually with Allen heads that are usually half way up the actual pumpkin ( the round middle section of the axle) pull the plug and either look inside it or stick your finger in it, the fluid should be just below the opening, if it is, it is full if it is down, fill her up, it should never be "pouring out", it is ok however that when you are filling it up that it drips out the hole a little bit, just stop there and put the plug back in. That's all there is to it, pretty simple when you really start to learn how do to it. I hope all goes well and that you will not hesitate to ask any more questions, we are all here to suggest, help, and even learn from one another
 

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