First post with a couple Q's

[allpowerfulguru]

First thread with a couple Q's

Hey Y'all! First off I want to say thanks for everyone who contributes to this forum. It has been a wealth of knowledge that I have been learning from for the past couple of months.
I recently took delivery of my '06 Sport 4x4 in Galactic Grey, which I actually bought from another member (ECP4runner). It has replaced my 1990 4runner which I had been driving for the past decade. My new 4runner is exactly what I was looking for and I LOVE it!

Now my question: I have the 3" Toytec Ultimate lift with stock sized Revos. I am looking at trying run 255/80/17 KM2s. The problem is that I have read mixed results with this tire and how much lift is needed. The lift sticky says minor trimming with 3/2 lift (which is fine with me), but in BlairB's thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/61473-bfg-255-80-17-mt-km2s-lots-pics.html, it says that one will need much more than 3" of lift. I also sent a PM to another member who ran these tires with a 3" lift and they said that there was only minor rubbing, but they never went offroad. Can anyone clarify? Also would there be any concern about stress to my stock drivetrain with such a tall tire?

Another question is that I see a LOT of people run spidertrax spacers, and from what I understand they seem to cause more rubbing issues. So does everyone just run them for the improved "stance," or am I missing something?

Long winded I know, but I have am in research overload. Thanks for any help.

 

[allpowerfulguru]

I will accept rumors and speculations at this point... anybody?

 

[darkie3495]

Now my question: I have the 3" Toytec Ultimate lift with stock sized Revos. I am looking at trying run 255/80/17 KM2s. The problem is that I have read mixed results with this tire and how much lift is needed. The lift sticky says minor trimming with 3/2 lift (which is fine with me), but in BlairB's thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/61473-bfg-255-80-17-mt-km2s-lots-pics.html, it says that one will need much more than 3" of lift. I also sent a PM to another member who ran these tires with a 3" lift and they said that there was only minor rubbing, but they never went offroad. Can anyone clarify? Also would there be any concern about stress to my stock drivetrain with such a tall tire?

Another question is that I see a LOT of people run spidertrax spacers, and from what I understand they seem to cause more rubbing issues. So does everyone just run them for the improved "stance," or am I missing something?

Long winded I know, but I have am in research overload. Thanks for any help.

Welcome to the 4th Gens!!

So BlairB is running FJ wheels which are a different offset than stock 4Runner rims along with Spidertrax so he will see a bit more rubbing than you would see with stock rims with spidertrax. Once you go to a true 33" tire, trimming will be needed...just a question of how much and what (flaps, bumper, pinch welds, fender liner, body mount).

Stress on your drivetrain shouldn't be an issue since many members are running ~33" tires with little to no driveline failures. As mentioned, BlairB wheels his truck pretty consistently with no real issue that I can recall. Once you step up to 35" then you should consider beefing up your driveline to compensate for the added weight and size.

As for the spidertrax or All-pro spacers for that matter are used for upper control arm clearance, wider stance for stability or looks to name a few. You are right, it does introduce more rubbing so there is a trade off.

If you haven't already, PM BlairB and get his take on it. He's pretty knowledgeable and helpful.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

I agree with darkie. Without spacers, you'll have minor trimming to do and probably have to remove the front mud flaps. With the spacers, it'll take more trimming, still possible.

The specs in the lift sticky are for use with stock wheels and no spacers. Adding spacers or different offset wheels will create more rubbing issues.

 

[allpowerfulguru]

Thanks for the input guys. I will send BlairB a PM and get his take on it as well.

 

[dapperdan]

FWIW...

I'm new here as well.

I have an 07 with a Revtek 3/2 with 285/75/17 tires. The place where I had it all installed had to trim some areas as well as remove all the mud flaps. I only rub on full wheel turn. I'm getting the Spidertrax spacers installed today. After the spacers, if I continue to rub, I will most likely add a Toytech 1" body lift which should suffice.

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

FWIW...

I'm new here as well.

I have an 07 with a Revtek 3/2 with 285/75/17 tires. The place where I had it all installed had to trim some areas as well as remove all the mud flaps. I only rub on full wheel turn. I'm getting the Spidertrax spacers installed today. After the spacers, if I continue to rub, I will most likely add a Toytech 1" body lift which should suffice.

The spidertrax will help with rubbing on the uca, but cause more rubbing in other areas.

 

[dapperdan]

The spidertrax will help with rubbing on the uca, but cause more rubbing in other areas.

What parts can I expect the rubbing?

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[ARK_SWAMP_RIDER]

What parts can I expect the rubbing?

Thanks for the heads up!

Don't have experience with that size so it's hard to say. Rear shouldn't change much, but in the front the fender and liner may rub. This all depends on how much trimming has already been done. You may also have issues with the body mount on the front.

 

[darkie3495]

What parts can I expect the rubbing?

Thanks for the heads up!

Keep an eye on the body mount, fender trim behind where the front flap used to be, front bumper, wheel well liner and pinch welds.

 

[dapperdan]

Thanks for the insight guys!

I will see shortly when I head over there to get them installed. Will provide feedback...

 

[08GX470Driver]

yes, I'd like to know rubbing issues with spacers. I've got some 285/70-17's on tundra split spokes for my GX470 and have spacers on the way. I mounted up a tire to the front driver side and it cleared the uca by about 3/4 inch without the spacers. Should I even bother with the spacers if I'm gonna get more rubbing elsewhere?

Is 3/4 gap enough room between tire and uca? Will that gap change signifigantly after I install my overland coilovers and lift it up to 3"?

 

[dapperdan]

Thanks for the insight guys!

I will see shortly when I head over there to get them installed. Will provide feedback...

To follow up... Just got back from getting my Spidertrax installed.

The front driver side tire rubs on the body a little bit. Looks like he's going to have to cut and re-weld, etc. to avoid the rubbing. He explained what he had to do in order to make the rubbing issues go away. Even with a body lift, it would rub the same spot since the body lift is above the spot that is rubbing.

I guess 285/75/17 are a tad too large, haha. Oh well, it will get fixed eventually.

(Thus my WTB a front bumper... I see an ARB, Demello, Shrockworks, etc. in the VERY near future.)

 

[big_lj_65]

Do you think the 255/80's will fit with the revtek 3/2 lift I'm thinking about going with that but I haven't completely made up my mind yet and would I need a 1" body lift as well?