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Off-choader said:
ndcent posted this already bruh, the President uses speaking notes, and a teleprompter just like ever president since Reagan.
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Which other president needed notes to be empthatetic to children? I get that it's hard for you pedes, but normal people don't need help with that.
 
Off-choader said:
ndcent posted this already bruh, the President uses speaking notes, and a teleprompter just like ever president since Reagan.
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I do that... but with note cards, mine don't say the white house on top. but still, I do that when speaking to any audience greater than 8
 
No matter what happens it will be constant negativity for this president from the left. No matter what he does there is nothing positive he can do in their eyes. They use the Alinski playbook, among other things, and will never acknowledge anything good that happens. An it's just a waste of time to try and convince them otherwise, even with facts. It's sad really
 
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

― Theodore Roosevelt
 
simple said:
Brother, I wasn’t asking because I don’t know what those documents say. I was a poli sci major and had classes that discussed this in great detail. I’m asking you what you think the ‘regulated’ means.

What you’re talking about was the founding fathers trying to get away with not having to keep up a government armed force. 1 because of the stigma of a potentially oppressive force. But also because the nation was literally just formed, militaries are expensive, communication and control was abysmal and difficult. It’s easier to ask for citizens to be ready to call up in ‘a time of danger’.

Times have changed my friend. I can appreciate the words in the document as black and white, but you need to appreciate that things are not what they were 230 years ago. People latch on to this argument as a way to keep their badass weapons. When I think of the ‘well regulated militia’ I think of the clowns who got dressed up in their tacticool gear outside of military recruiting offices to ‘protect’ recruiters, and ended up ND’ing into nearby businesses and the idiot who shot up a pizza shop with his AR-15 because they read an article that Hillary Clinton child prostitution ring there.

Don’t get me wrong, I can also empathize with the oppressive government. I’m equally, if not more, disturbed by the militarization of the police. ****ing cops with MRAPs and drones that can detonate a charge to kill people. W. T. F. But there’s *******s out there too that go killing cops and kids with 30rd magazines.

I’m all about calling out hypocrisy on both sides. I think Trump and a lot of posters in here are dead on that a lot of warning signs were missed here. But, Sen Cruz and Rubio both immediately came out decrying the politicization of this tradgedy, but the other side is just as quick to politicize an illegal immigrant killing someone, or some ******* that drove his ****ing can into a crowd of people. You can’t have it both ways. If not now, then when can we have the discussion? Bump stocks were talked about 15mins after the Vegas shooting and actually had bipartisan support. Where the hell is that now? Oh yeah, nowhere.
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Constitution was adopted July 2, 1776 (celebrated on July 4, 1776).

However, US Army, US Marine Corps, and US Navy were all created in the 2nd half of 1775.
 
e60ral said:
You understand you are still funding their nonsense lobbying though, right?

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Nope.

NRA membership dues do not go towards lobbying efforts.

Only donations to the NRA-ILA get put towards lobbying.
 
Xhado said:
Nope.

NRA membership dues do not go towards lobbying efforts.

Only donations to the NRA-ILA get put towards lobbying.
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ILA isn't their only body

The NRA spends money directly and I'm pretty sure member dues go to the NRA-PVF (hard to clarify on the PAC because the NRA left this off their tax filings for years and reported to the IRS that they had no membership dues)

The NRA is much more than the NRA Foundation (the NRA Foundation is the part that gives money to clubs and 4-H groups, etc...)
 
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WallyT4R said:
No matter what happens it will be constant negativity for this president from the left. No matter what he does there is nothing positive he can do in their eyes. They use the Alinski playbook, among other things, and will never acknowledge anything good that happens. An it's just a waste of time to try and convince them otherwise, even with facts. It's sad really
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Our ability to gloss over his achievements and feats are equally matched by your ability to gloss over his lies, his misogyny, his complete lack of regard for the office he holds, did I mention the lies.

Early on Trump really piqued my interest for a while, the last thing we needed in office (2nd to last as it turns out) was the ice queen clinton (still didn't vote for her). But a self funded politician that wasn't beholden to lobbyists and special interests groups! I almost don't care what his politics are thats a dream come true. That quickly died though, as it became obvious he had taken up the mantle of the christian conservatives, the NRA and the energy industry (I work for O/G btw) none of which a few years ago he gave two figs about. Then he gets elected....and he speaks, and he tweets, and he hires people, and he fires people....and you realize we have elected a 4th grade bully who has been held back a few years and may or may not belong in special ed.

As soon as you guys acknowledge all that we will acknowledge his "achievements".
 
e60ral said:
Which other president needed notes to be empthatetic to children? I get that it's hard for you pedes, but normal people don't need help with that.
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Obama pretended to cry on TV and that didn't get America to ban gun so you DSA Stalinists could get to work on "fundamentally transforming" the US.
 
Shouldn't the definition of "arms" be what existed at the time the amendment was written? Isn't anything other than that an unfounded interpretation of intent?
 
trailtruck said:
Constitution was adopted July 2, 1776 (celebrated on July 4, 1776).

However, US Army, US Marine Corps, and US Navy were all created in the 2nd half of 1775.
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Not sure I follow what your point is. I helped stand up a new unit and it was about 8mo before we got computers and basic office supplies, a year and half before we got weapons. And that was with higher echelons, parent commands, a budget, and modern technology to help us out. And the Marine Corps was formed by a dude in a bar asking drunk people if they wanted a job. So if your point was because we had ‘armed forces’ created on paper, that they were ready to go and execute 2wks, or even a year and half later, you’re high.

I was not saying that they didn’t want a military. I was saying the founding fathers probably had a good idea about our nations readiness going up against the greatest military at the time, and said, every swinging dick in this country will need to fight if necessary.
 
-JD- said:
Shouldn't the definition of "arms" be what existed at the time the amendment was written? Isn't anything other than that an unfounded interpretation of intent?
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short answer - no, it's not limited to just the guns of the time because of language in contemporaneous writings that help clarify the intention. this also doesn't mean though that advancements in military technology mean that protected arms should be equally advanced. i suggest reading the DC v Heller decision, it is a good summary.
 
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