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If any of that were true you could cite your sources to back up your nonsense.

Here’s your chance.

sandy hook, vegas, sutherland springs, pulse night club... did you get your gun control after politicizing these attacks? Nah you created them with gun free zones.
 
Cheers to you for wading into the toxic propaganda page that is the donald sub Reddit.

Speaking of crisis actors, the hideous Dana Loesch is a crisis actor.

the reason that the liberals in this thread are becoming increasingly toxic and hateful is because they know they will not win this gun control argument ::beer:
 
How is it not a political issue when...Not even 1 hour after this tragedy we had a the left calling for gun control. Can't even pay respects before using these tragedies for political purposes. Every tragedy is an opportunity to advance the agenda for them.

Well it's most certainly not a political issue in my eyes, and I believe this transcends party lines, we have a responsibility as gun owners to our community, it's a complex and nuanced issue. I see a lot of people on both sides of the debate trying to over simplify it. If we can all agree that we should take some action and that inaction at this point is clearly unacceptable then we can move forward as a responsible society as to what actions should be taken, how and when... when did this become so hard?
 
yep:
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(and i don't understand why her ad basically calling for insurrection has gone without comment in regards to this shooting)

it's important that in the wake of this shooting we don't forget the real victims: conservatives

Oh man do I ever love the NRA now. Never a member never cared to be but now! I am forwarding my 300$ Lifelock membership into the NRA every year.
 
Man, you guys are right. I heard kids used to LOVE getting shot at until George Soros told them how to feel.

The reason kids are asking for action now is that it's ALWAYS TOO SOON. By the time you're done with your "thoughts and prayers" the next one is here.
 
Man, you guys are right. I heard kids used to LOVE getting shot at until George Soros told them how to feel.

The reason kids are asking for action now is that it's ALWAYS TOO SOON. By the time you're done with your "thoughts and prayers" the next one is here.

no more gun free zones! the cowards love those places
 
maybe we need to preemptively define the appropriate time for grieving so we can schedule action to start as soon as it ends

what is enough time?

let's go ahead and decide that now.

after the san bernadino shooting ted cruz responded the next day at the RJC Forum. after sutherland springs shooting, trump blamed it on mental health the next day. after las vegas right wing media had posts blaming the "far left" by morning time. After orlando, trump waited just hours to tweet.

so if we don't want to follow the lead of the outspoken victims themselves, who's lead should we follow? ted cruz? president trump? right wing media? how long should we wait?
 
I've kept track of this thread somewhat.

To all that have posted Pro/anti who of you have been in a situation where:

(When seconds count LE or Help is minutes away)?

I have been with handguns and long guns, not by my choosing, I'm alive.

Those that have or are Pro get it, and will keep this Freedom.

To those that are anti or inexperienced isn't it nice to be able to choose what you want to do
with your life or those around you when seconds count?

Are you sure you want LE as in Browards Cowards being minutes away.
 
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Anyone who wants 100% disarmament doesn't realize how quixotic and foolish that would be. I certainly don't want to disarm responsible gun owners (I own and shoot recreationally when I can afford the time and ammo).

I simply disagree with the NRA's stance that anyone with cash and a pulse should have unlimited access to firearms.

All we're saying is that MAYBE WE SHOULD CHILL OUT ON SELLING GUNS TO EVERYONE THAT WALKS IN THE DOOR.
 
I've kept track of this thread somewhat.

To all that have posted Pro/anti who of you have been in a situation where:

(When seconds count LE or Help is minutes away)?

I have been with handguns and long guns, not by my choosing, I'm alive.

Those that have or are Pro get it, and will keep this Freedom.

To those that are anti or inexperienced isn't it nice to be able to choose what you want to do
with your life or those around you when seconds count?

Are you sure you want LE as in Browards Cowards being minutes away.

So... what about those of us that are neither of the extremes you provide? Myself for example?
 
i came into this thread late so i just skimmed the beginning but i don't remember anyone wanting guns to be banned

what gun regulations do you think are reasonable, [MENTION=142122]96RedRunner[/MENTION]? Are you okay with background checks for all purchases? What about raising the age for long guns to 21? Treating large capacity magazines like NFA items?


Go ahead and throw out what gun restrictions you think make sense

trump, for example, suggests banning bump stocks and raising the age to buy a gun to 21. marco rubio thinks there are enough votes in congress to raise the age to 21 and says it's the right thing to do, he is open to considering magazine size restrictions, and he wants to create legislation for law enforcement gun restraining orders. are those reasonable to you?
 
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I would be ok with banning bump stocks in exchange for suppressors to be non-nfa items but that is about it. I regularly dump a 30 round mag on a pack of hogs... need moar rounds.
 
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Yes, let's go back to the wild west where everyone had a gun on their hip. That's why westerns are so boring to watch, no one ever gets shot.

I know you meant that sarcastically but you're not actually wrong. the 1890's is often referred to as the Polite '90s because pretty much everyone had a two shot gun in their pocket, even the ladies with a pretty mother of pear handle... people were a lot nicer to one another.
 
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