Front Bumper decision - HELP!

Roguestatus1688

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Ok guys, I need help deciding on which front bumper I want!

My two options:

1. 4xinnovations plate bumper - on sale for $621 + $115 for shipping so $736 total, and then painting (whether I paint myself or have it powder coated)

2. CBI Hybird bumper - 10% off right now of $699 + $142 so $774 total and then painting options again.

I really like both bumpers, and I have heard issues with the mounting of the 4xinnovations bumper.
I need to decide within the next few days as they are only on sale for a limited time. Any opinions help, especially from those who have/had experience with either!

Thank you all, and hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!
 
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id go CBI, i have only had experience with CBI, but from everything i have seen, and head i would chose them hands down. not saying 4x is bad. but i have first hand seen CBIs products, both bumpers and other products, and its QUALITY stuff. and their customer service is top tear too. so thats my vote, plus i like the look of the hybrid
 
I would go with 4x Innov's personally...at least I plan to. I do like the CBI, but I like the fact that 4x's is all plate, and covers more. IMO it's just as streamlined and the CBI (I think the ARBs are too big), but still protects as much as the stock bumper. I did read about one person having fitment issues, but I believe it turned out to be a slightly bent frame or parts, could be wrong though.

I've seen a quite a few 4x products firsthand, and they are well built. I have never seen the CBI stuff, but I would assume it is just as well built. It seems like CBI is popular on the left side, and 4x is popular on the right!

Also, just my .02, I would paint the bumper yourself if you do any kinds of wheeling that could scratch it. Powder coating looks nice, but if scratched, it's a lot harder to touch up. You can get a pretty durable paint job with time and effort.
 
I have dealt with CBI and I purchased their rear hybrid bumper with tire swing and gas can holder. That thing is a piece of art, very well built. Took it to the Rubicon and smashed it on every rock I could find ;) held up great.

Choose which you like, i'm only speaking out for the quality of CBI to help you out.
 
Why not an ARB?

I bought mine for about $800 shipped. And it's already powder coated.

Honestly, I actually purchased a used ARB a few months back, cleaned it up, sanded, fresh coat of new paint, and got all ready to install...found out that one of my front frame rails was bent by the previous owner (the tow hook part is bent, you can see a thread I started http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/141219-repairing-minor-frame-damage.html) so I ended up selling it for a $200 profit because I was not ready to take it to someone to repair the frame rail and I do not have the appropriate tools to fix it myself. I also have zero experience welding and know that the end caps need to be removed and if winching, it is recommended to weld new end caps on for extra support, so I scratched the idea of an ARB.

Plus, IMO, they have a dated look to them...I am not hating by any means, just I like the look of the other ones a little better. Now if I came across one like Blcktpgsr's, I would pick it up in a heart beat as the modifications he made to the ARB make it one of the sexiest bumpers I have ever seen on a 3rd gen.

id go CBI, i have only had experience with CBI, but from everything i have seen, and head i would chose them hands down. not saying 4x is bad. but i have first hand seen CBIs products, both bumpers and other products, and its QUALITY stuff. and their customer service is top tear too. so thats my vote, plus i like the look of the hybrid

Good to know, and thanks for your input. I do love the look of the hybrid bumper, both front and rear...but rear is a ways away, front needs to be done now!

I would go with 4x Innov's personally...at least I plan to. I do like the CBI, but I like the fact that 4x's is all plate, and covers more. IMO it's just as streamlined and the CBI (I think the ARBs are too big), but still protects as much as the stock bumper. I did read about one person having fitment issues, but I believe it turned out to be a slightly bent frame or parts, could be wrong though.

I've seen a quite a few 4x products firsthand, and they are well built. I have never seen the CBI stuff, but I would assume it is just as well built. It seems like CBI is popular on the left side, and 4x is popular on the right!

Also, just my .02, I would paint the bumper yourself if you do any kinds of wheeling that could scratch it. Powder coating looks nice, but if scratched, it's a lot harder to touch up. You can get a pretty durable paint job with time and effort.

I too like the look of the full plate, as I cannot stand the look of tube bumpers (again, just my opinion) and how so much other stuff shows. There is just something very unique to the CBI hybrid that tickles my fancy...does show a little more of the underside than I would like, but I plan to fill the two main holes with AUX lights to fill it up a bit.

I have also heard about the fitment issues of the 4x bumper and that the customer service was not all that great...but it is a damn good looking bumper!

And I also agree with the painting by myself, and that is probably the way I plan on going...it is just kind of a pain is the @$$ and a tedious process!

I have dealt with CBI and I purchased their rear hybrid bumper with tire swing and gas can holder. That thing is a piece of art, very well built. Took it to the Rubicon and smashed it on every rock I could find ;) held up great.

Choose which you like, i'm only speaking out for the quality of CBI to help you out.

Good to know that it will hold up well! I absolutley love the look of the rear hybrid bumper and would to pick that up too...but I already have the front bumper and 7th injector kit from URD on my mind and need to get purchased before the rear bumper.

What about Addicted's new bumper?

I saw this, and love the look of it, but I have a 1" BL and that bumper is not able to compensate a BL...so I have excluded that from my options.


I wish ODL still made front bumpers for us 3rd gens because they also had a sleek and sexy front bumper. I would have added them to the list if they were still available...plus I could have done a road trip to pick it up to save on shipping costs.

Shrockworks is also a very clean sexy bumper...but price and wait wise, just not really worth it in my book when comparing to the other options out there.

Thanks for all of your guys input, and please continue to give more feedback!

Ryan
 
Honestly, I actually purchased a used ARB a few months back, cleaned it up, sanded, fresh coat of new paint, and got all ready to install...found out that one of my front frame rails was bent by the previous owner (the tow hook part is bent, you can see a thread I started http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/141219-repairing-minor-frame-damage.html) so I ended up selling it for a $200 profit because I was not ready to take it to someone to repair the frame rail and I do not have the appropriate

Ryan

CBI and 4x Innovations doesn't use the bolt holes on the bottom of the frame?
 
CBI and 4x Innovations doesn't use the bolt holes on the bottom of the frame?

They do, but I am going to cut the bolts and tow hook off from my rail, and see if I cannot get it to work out...if they do require it to be fully straight...well honestly I dont know what I am going to do...I will probably have to take it somewhere and see if they cant straighten it out.

But I know the bolts and tow hook itself are not salvageable so I already know they will be cut off and thrown away.
 
Im going with addicted's bumper to. Talked with him and he said he will offer BL versions soon. He is not going to want to keep losing the business from us bodylift guys. Its nice enough to wait out a little, I hope its not too long.
 
I'd go with the CBI over the 4x any day. Love my CBI rear, it can take a beating and then some.

4-Ripcord had a really hard time with 4xInnovations front bumper. His experience was poor compared to the service I received from CBI.

Shrockworks front FTW :) The new addicted bumpers are way cool, too. Looking into a set for my 1st gen.
 
Plus, IMO, they have a dated look to them...I am not hating by any means, just I like the look of the other ones a little better.

Funny, I picked up an ARB just for that classic look. I like the old school expo feel. But seeing as its not on your list ill give you my take on CBI.

I have their hybrid rear. Its perfect. An absolute work of art. Took minor shimming and trimming to fit and since then its been gold. Only thing I've had to do since installing it is bash it on rocks :bounce:. Service is top notch too.
 
They do, but I am going to cut the bolts and tow hook off from my rail, and see if I cannot get it to work out...if they do require it to be fully straight.
Your going to use the 2 side bolts and the 1 top bolt on each side? Seems like it will be pretty weak and if you do hit something mess up the frame more.

My vote is 4xinnovations. :thumb:
 
They do, but I am going to cut the bolts and tow hook off from my rail, and see if I cannot get it to work out...if they do require it to be fully straight...well honestly I dont know what I am going to do...I will probably have to take it somewhere and see if they cant straighten it out.

But I know the bolts and tow hook itself are not salvageable so I already know they will be cut off and thrown away.

The frame looks to be fine right? Hard to tell all thats going on from the pic angles. I mean the frame isnt bent inwards is it? As far as i can tell its just the bolts and tow hook that look jacked up.

You really should fix that regardless of the bumper you get. I got a cheap ryobi grinder from home depot or Lowes and it cuts through metal extremely fast.

If you cant straighten those bolts up so they can be turned then you will have to cut them off. Try to leave as much sticking out as possible and buy some nuts that will fit over the remaining shaft of the bolt. A muffler shop should be able to weld the nuts on and then you can get the bolts out. The heat from the welding will help with removing the bolts.

Shouldn't cost much at all to get this done.
 
Would you be getting them with hoops or without? On purely looks, I like the 4x plate bumper better when it's got no hoops, but don't think you can go wrong with either one.
 
I like the 4x bumper with the hoops I may be bias tho lol

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