General Grabber ATX tire

ToyoTex said:
Friend's dad has those on his 2012 FJ Cruiser, great in sand and mud.

He did rip it on a sharp rock on a 1 degree incline, so there's that as well. To be fair, the rock was four feet long and shaped like Pride Rock from the Lion King, while also sharper than a diamond.
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Was that the P-metric or the LT-E version? At what psi did it happen?

Thanks!
 
Decipher said:
Sound is purely subjective so this is a tough one. What you’re experiencing is likely the inevitable increase in sound inherent with any aggressive AT tire. When people note they’re quite, it’s relative to the aggressiveness of the tire. If you had an MT tire on, you’d have greater appreciation for how “quite” these are.

When I jumped from the stock highway tires to my first ATs, I expected the worse and was therefore happy. If you’re expecting or desiring highway tire ride and noise, you’ll only achieve that with a highway tire. These will not get any more quite...they’ll get louder as they wear.

If you don’t need an AT because you don’t go off road, exchange them for a tire that will meet your needs.


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Thanks for the reply. Funny, driving these over the last few days, I am getting used to the increased noise. These look so much nicer with white lettering on the outside. I got the matte gray wheels to go with the gray color of the truck and to my eyes the whole thing looks like it is ready for adventure!

One of tires has too much balancing weight stuck on it so I am going to have them replace it. Funny, that is the side the 4Runners pulls to while driving i.e. right. I asked them to make sure the roadforce values for all tires are below 15lbs based on my previous experience with the SR5. I could not get rid of the highway shake until they balanced with less than 15lbs rodforce. Will post a picture once the skid plate is on...

By the way if anyone is interested, the total weight of the General ATx 265 75 70 P and TRD Gray wheel is 70.5lbs combined which is exactly the same as the TRD OR stock wheel and Dunlops. My MPG seems to be down by 1 overall.
 
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quicksandTRDPRO said:
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of discussion on the new atx, but I decided to go ahead and try them out. Glad I did, so far it's been great! I just drove in a huge snow storm this morning, very icy roads, and the tires did excellent. With my old Nitto grapplers I would have had to be in 4h and still would have been slipping around. Never had to use 4h, and felt very planted and confident. Granted these are still very new, but they are super quiet and feel like they soak up so much more of the terrain than the Nittos did. I went with the stock 265 70 17 in standard load. I'm not sure how much the grapplers weighed but these feel lighter. I am hoping they do some more C loads down the road, I'd like to try those out. Anyway, if you're getting to the point of getting new tires I would definitely recommend trying this tire out. Wet and snow/ice traction has really surprised me. I think General Tire nailed it with this tire!
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Hey there, I'm about to order the General Grabber ATX in 265/70/17 but I am also torn between these and the Falken Wildpeaks AT3. Now, with that said, do you have any reservations about the General Grabber ATX's? I am mostly driving paved roads with the occasional off-road trip here and there plus muddy gravel roads up north. Basically, I am trying to have you convince me either way. I was originally dead set on Cooper AT3 4s's but I read two reviews that said they were a little squirrely on turns on dry pavement and didn't corner that well. That put me off and I had to special order them. Just wanted to ask you for a longer term follow up. Thanks in advance. :hatsoff:
 
4runr4eva said:
Hey there, I'm about to order the General Grabber ATX in 265/70/17 but I am also torn between these and the Falken Wildpeaks AT3. Now, with that said, do you have any reservations about the General Grabber ATX's? I am mostly driving paved roads with the occasional off-road trip here and there plus muddy gravel roads up north. Basically, I am trying to have you convince me either way. I was originally dead set on Cooper AT3 4s's but I read two reviews that said they were a little squirrely on turns on dry pavement and didn't corner that well. That put me off and I had to special order them. Just wanted to ask you for a longer term follow up. Thanks in advance. :hatsoff:
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I have NO reservation in recommending these tires! They seriously have checked all the boxes for me. I would compare them to the German Shepherd breed of dog. They may not be the very best at any one particular thing, but they rate extremely high in every category. And there is a reason they are trusted with some of the most demanding lines of work. :thumb3:
 
MAST4R said:
You mean like the 4Runner itself?

My GS would sure have an issue with you claiming she is not best at any one particular thing though :rofl:

How has your wear been? In /32nds per 1000s of miles?
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Haha, I think they are the best, but I was trying not to show bias in comparing to the tires :)

I don't have an exact measurement for you, but after a couple thousand miles they still look new. General touts their DuraGen Technology with these, in regards to even wear and chip resistance, and so far I have no reason not to believe them.
 
4runr4eva said:
Hey there, I'm about to order the General Grabber ATX in 265/70/17 but I am also torn between these and the Falken Wildpeaks AT3. Now, with that said, do you have any reservations about the General Grabber ATX's? I am mostly driving paved roads with the occasional off-road trip here and there plus muddy gravel roads up north. Basically, I am trying to have you convince me either way. I was originally dead set on Cooper AT3 4s's but I read two reviews that said they were a little squirrely on turns on dry pavement and didn't corner that well. That put me off and I had to special order them. Just wanted to ask you for a longer term follow up. Thanks in advance. :hatsoff:
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The car went into the shop today. I got them in stock size on Matte Grey TRD Pro wheels. I cant wait for the call to pick her up. Stay tuned for pics... :thumb3:
 
quicksandTRDPRO said:
I have NO reservation in recommending these tires! They seriously have checked all the boxes for me. I would compare them to the German Shepherd breed of dog. They may not be the very best at any one particular thing, but they rate extremely high in every category. And there is a reason they are trusted with some of the most demanding lines of work. :thumb3:
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Thanks for the recommendation!

Ok, I got them installed last Friday and I love them so far. Great dry grip. Planted and sure footed. Corners well. They are quiet too. I have taken them in light rain and tried to get them to hydroplane, but there wasn't enough water to test that. I also have not taken off-road yet. I did have a really had a hard time getting them to lose grip even from a standstill and punching the gas and turning the steering wheel. Solid grip.

I got them in 265/70/17 had them install the white lettering inside so it doesn't show and I think they look fantastic with the Grey TRD Pro Wheels I got on the 40th anniversary sale. I have driven them for a few hundred miles and need to bring them in for a rebalance. I get a slight vibration at highways speeds between 60-80 MPH. I will give the tire company another chance to get them just right. I will also suggest they reduce the road force applied to 15 lbs. as suggested earlier to see if that fixes the vibration. Otherwise they are slick.

What do you all think? :bravo:
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I've seen this tire in person (LT285/70R17). The actual, physical plies of the tread are: 2 polyester, 2 steel and 2 polyamide (nylon is an example of polyamide). The actual plies of the sidewall are 2 polyester. I've measured the sidewalls of the ATX (again in LT285/70R17) with an outside caliper and got approximately 8.5mm (previously I mentioned it was a little more than that but I've since remeasured and was consistently getting close to 8.5mm). I've got the same size and load rating in the BFG KO2's (3 ply sidewall) and consistently got 9.5mm. So the ATX is close but not quite the same thickness. The ATX is also about 2-2.5 lbs heavier than the KO2 in LT285/70R17. Hope this helps.
 
Thai said:
That’s the TREAD plies, not sidewall plies. You can tell by looking on the side of the tire. It should say...TREAD xx plies, SIDEWALL xx plies.
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Thank you. I appreciate the help as I was totally confused by those numbers.
 
Having mine installed tomorrow morning. I really hope they are quiet. Stock 265/70r17 P-rated on TRD Pro wheels for my Limited.
 
ToyoTex said:
Sorry about the delay in response!

He has the LT-E and didn't air down far enough :-)
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Thanks!

Swipter said:
So that's an issue that can happen with any tire, regardless of tread plies?
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Yes.

Generally, P-metric tires are not part of offroad discussions and for LT metric it goes like this:

Air down offroad for:
1/ Comfort. Normally 20sh should ok.
2/ Traction. I am sure there is a thread about what psi for what conditions, it also depends on wheels, loads, etc.
3/ Prevent through-the-tread punctures like that.

As for P-metric tires, few of us do a lot of offroading on those and it is different as they are more likely to burst a sidewall when run at lower pressures. They also deflect plenty at 30-33 psi and so there is no need to air down for comfort or traction, except on deep, soft surfaces.
 
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