got rear sag issues

[lonewolve]

hey guys i have a 1995 4runner it has started to sag,bought it four years ago already had airbags in rear springs,now its startin to sag .i'm considering doing a Old Man Emu suspension job.However i dont know where to start.i replaced shocks three years ago with monroe reflex shocks i know they arent the normal 4x4 type shocks but i didnt know that when i replaced them ,I own a 2003 4runner as well as a1998 tacoma xtra cab.I'll be Toyota Guy for the rest of my life.
Out of three toyotas that i own i enjoy my 95 most ,fun to drive and i like the way it rides.i want to upgrade the suspension so sag issues go away.i also want to be able to tow driftboat,a log splitter,or small trailer of split wood.i also want to eliminate sag when towing,the airbag used to work,probably has a leak somewhere.
i want to do this right the first time,im not building a monster truck or a rock crawler i use my 4runner for hunting and flyfishing travel. any ideas of what i should do ?i m doin this also to lift the 4runner 2-3 inches total without all kind of issues of changing other things and keep a level ride without sag issues under towing or non towing driving.whos should i call to order my ome kit from?
Tight Wraps & Tight Lines
Rick Wallace

 

[fourwd1]

whos should i call to order my ome kit from?
Tight Wraps & Tight Lines
Rick Wallace

I've never heard of either of them. I'd go with whoever has the best price and rep. But you can't go wrong with an OME suspension.

 

[lonewolve]

opps

what i meant is that im looking at the Old Man Emu springs shocks and any other parts ill need to do replacement and lift at the same time im not going to radical id like to get at least 2"-3" tops and have a 4runner that doesnt sag and sits level ......with or without a load.

 

[77'911]

I got rid of the sag on ours by rebuilding a fair bit of the suspension. Here's a list of the parts:
1.urethane control/lateral arm bushings. I thought it was about $120 for a set that rebushed the entire truck, front a-frames and all.
2. MOOG springs($80). These were alot better then the factory units in our 90 4runner. They raised it up while handling loads or weight much better.
3.factory shocks($100). Probably should have gone with bilstein but it was too late, so I'll run these out but they did the job.
4. sway-a-way torsion bars($150). I went with the 25mm which made the front end slight stiffer to take out the huge dips the front end might take on the hwy. This is personal taste here as we wanted it to be better on the road then it was previously(ie improved handling, less front dive, etc.)
I found it kept the stock height which we wanted, and at the same time greatly improved the trucks suspension for road use. Oh yes, while in there, I also replaced the upper and lower ball joints. Toyota then completely re-aligned the truck under their steering relay rod campaign.
regards

 

[Savage]

May I interject a question here? I've been biding my time, watching the posts cause I have the same sag issue. But one thing I guess I'm too simple minded to grasp, is when you guys speak of these sag "fixes" are you talking about just doing the rear, or replacing shocks and springs all the way around? I propose to just replace the rear springs but do shocks all the way around (all oem equivalent as I don't want lift - just a return to factory specs) , along with a complete urethane bushing kit...

 

[win1fight2]

I got rid of the sag on ours by rebuilding a fair bit of the suspension. Here's a list of the parts:
1.urethane control/lateral arm bushings. I thought it was about $120 for a set that rebushed the entire truck, front a-frames and all.
2. MOOG springs($80). These were alot better then the factory units in our 90 4runner. They raised it up while handling loads or weight much better.
3.factory shocks($100). Probably should have gone with bilstein but it was too late, so I'll run these out but they did the job.
4. sway-a-way torsion bars($150). I went with the 25mm which made the front end slight stiffer to take out the huge dips the front end might take on the hwy. This is personal taste here as we wanted it to be better on the road then it was previously(ie improved handling, less front dive, etc.)
I found it kept the stock height which we wanted, and at the same time greatly improved the trucks suspension for road use. Oh yes, while in there, I also replaced the upper and lower ball joints. Toyota then completely re-aligned the truck under their steering relay rod campaign.
regards

did you use a LSPV "bracket" or panhard bracket? Thanx

 

[77'911]

did you use a LSPV "bracket" or panhard bracket? Thanx

No, I kept it stock. I'll probably reset(to factory specs) the load sensing valve when replacing it as it weeps a bit. Its the last item in the brake system I've not replaced or dealt with.
regards