BigEyeDuck
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Please tell me more while I make my way to Google....
Had my '18 Limited 10 days ... not enough power for me...
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Please tell me more while I make my way to Google....
teotwaki
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https://www.pedalcommander.com/product-category/toyota/
Pedal Commander can be installed in 10 minutes or less. It is a complete plug-&-play system that connects above your gas pedal and stays inside your car, you don’t even need to pop your hood. If you can plug in a lamp, you can install Pedal Commander.
We have tons of example install videos on YouTube to help you get a general idea of just how easy it is to set up!
Pedal Commander is compatible with the following makes, models, and years:
4Runner (2003-2009)
FJ Cruiser (2006 and newer)
Fortuner (2005-2015)
Highlander (2004-2007)
Hilux (2005-2015)
Sequoia (2002-2007)
Sienna (2003-2009)
Tacoma (2004 and newer)
Tundra (2003-2006)
What is Pedal Commander?
Pedal Commander is a throttle response controller that removes response delays on any vehicle with an electronic gas pedal (most vehicles made after 2005). This is achieved by amplifying the signal being sent from the sensor on your gas pedal to the vehicle's ECU (computer). Today’s newer vehicles lack the responsiveness that came with older throttle cables. It doesn’t matter how fast you push your gas pedal to the floor, you don’t have access to all the power your vehicle has to offer. We are your solution!
One of our most frequently asked questions is “how much horsepower does it add?” Pedal Commander doesn’t add any horsepower, but it does let you use the existing horsepower of your engine by allowing you to access it quicker with the amplified signal.
This performance increase cannot be achieved with your typical aftermarket tune or programmer. Pedal Commander is the only device that lets YOU choose how you want your throttle to respond and change it on the fly. There are 4 different modes, with 9 sensitivity levels for each mode. This gives you a total of 36 levels of response to choose from, ensuring there is something for every driver in every vehicle.
While there may not be anything else out there like it, Pedal Commander is completely compatible with any other aftermarket parts you may already have. And since we don’t use the OBDII port, this means it’s a perfect match to compliment your existing tune or programmer to maximize your driving experience.
Undetectable by dealerships, won't void a maintenance plan!
We understand not wanting to risk voiding the maintenance program on a new vehicle, but that no longer means you have to wait 5 years/50,000 miles before you can start customizing your car or truck to drive how you want it to.
When a dealership does any kind of work or repair, they run a scan on the vehicle's computer to see if anything has been changed. Other aftermarket tuners and programmers will leave "flags" on the ECU after they've been installed, and will remain even after they've been removed. These digital footprints are what cause the dealership to void any kind of claim or maintenance program.
Pedal Commander is 100% UNTRACEABLE by dealerships. Before going in for service, just make sure you turn the unit off and tuck it out of sight and you're good to go! You can leave it plugged in, no need to un-install or re-install, and they'll never know it was there.
MossJenks
New member
I've never heard of that stretch of highway being called "Gauntlet" but I drive it all the time. I've towed all sorts of things up it including with such distinguished power-house tow rigs like Honda CRX, Isuzu Amigo, 1st gen T4R and 2nd gen T4R (3.slow POWER FTW, lol). They all make it OK.
Haven't towed anything up it with my 5th gen yet but do know for a fact with 4 people and ski gear I can top 100 MPH up it. But I do have to admit that doing that takes a little more than 1/4 throttle and 1500 RPM. If that's your criteria - towing heavy things up steep grades in top gear with zero effort - you need something several times as powerful as a 4Runner.
If you want something that ALWAYS has ALL of the power you could ever wish for, I'd suggest a Bugatti Chiron.
I've always had manual transmission vehicles. In those if you want to go you put your foot down and let it rev. So expecting a vehicle to go with little throttle in top gear is just completely foreign to me. I just don't get it at all.
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teotwaki
Senior Member
If this were approached from numbers rather than butt-dyno feelings
Land Cruiser V8
381 HP at 5600 RPM 401 ft-lbs at 3600 rpm 5,815 curb weight
4Runner V6
270 HP at 5600 RPM 278 ft-lbs at 4400 rpm 4,800 lb. curb weight
We would simply choose the vehicle that will perform to our expectations and not complain about the chosen vehicle's cost or the gas mileage.
Land Cruiser V8
381 HP at 5600 RPM 401 ft-lbs at 3600 rpm 5,815 curb weight
4Runner V6
270 HP at 5600 RPM 278 ft-lbs at 4400 rpm 4,800 lb. curb weight
We would simply choose the vehicle that will perform to our expectations and not complain about the chosen vehicle's cost or the gas mileage.
https://www.pedalcommander.com/product-category/toyota/
Pedal Commander can be installed in 10 minutes or less. It is a complete plug-&-play system that connects above your gas pedal and stays inside your car, you don’t even need to pop your hood. If you can plug in a lamp, you can install Pedal Commander.
We have tons of example install videos on YouTube to help you get a general idea of just how easy it is to set up!
Pedal Commander is compatible with the following makes, models, and years:
4Runner (2003-2009)
FJ Cruiser (2006 and newer)
Fortuner (2005-2015)
Highlander (2004-2007)
Hilux (2005-2015)
Sequoia (2002-2007)
Sienna (2003-2009)
Tacoma (2004 and newer)
Tundra (2003-2006)
What is Pedal Commander?
Pedal Commander is a throttle response controller that removes response delays on any vehicle with an electronic gas pedal (most vehicles made after 2005). This is achieved by amplifying the signal being sent from the sensor on your gas pedal to the vehicle's ECU (computer). Today’s newer vehicles lack the responsiveness that came with older throttle cables. It doesn’t matter how fast you push your gas pedal to the floor, you don’t have access to all the power your vehicle has to offer. We are your solution!
One of our most frequently asked questions is “how much horsepower does it add?” Pedal Commander doesn’t add any horsepower, but it does let you use the existing horsepower of your engine by allowing you to access it quicker with the amplified signal.
This performance increase cannot be achieved with your typical aftermarket tune or programmer. Pedal Commander is the only device that lets YOU choose how you want your throttle to respond and change it on the fly. There are 4 different modes, with 9 sensitivity levels for each mode. This gives you a total of 36 levels of response to choose from, ensuring there is something for every driver in every vehicle.
While there may not be anything else out there like it, Pedal Commander is completely compatible with any other aftermarket parts you may already have. And since we don’t use the OBDII port, this means it’s a perfect match to compliment your existing tune or programmer to maximize your driving experience.
Undetectable by dealerships, won't void a maintenance plan!
We understand not wanting to risk voiding the maintenance program on a new vehicle, but that no longer means you have to wait 5 years/50,000 miles before you can start customizing your car or truck to drive how you want it to.
When a dealership does any kind of work or repair, they run a scan on the vehicle's computer to see if anything has been changed. Other aftermarket tuners and programmers will leave "flags" on the ECU after they've been installed, and will remain even after they've been removed. These digital footprints are what cause the dealership to void any kind of claim or maintenance program.
Pedal Commander is 100% UNTRACEABLE by dealerships. Before going in for service, just make sure you turn the unit off and tuck it out of sight and you're good to go! You can leave it plugged in, no need to un-install or re-install, and they'll never know it was there.
Now this looks intriguing. I'd like to see one in action.
83Mule
New member
The FLT" Ike run'' is seriously harder than I would ever run a truck, yet they have never even had an overheat or problem on most every model and make made. Miles up a steep grade at max load and some spinning at 7K....for over 8 minutes straight! So, on the few occasions you would treat the truck like this it will survive just fine. 99% of the time it will have enough power for the job.
Senorlechero
New member
get about 100 more hp and last about 150-200k miles before needing a top end rebuild....:flamethrwoer2:
I would go with the Magnuson supercharger before trying to do a custom twin turbo setup.
The Pedal commander is intriguing though... going to go search for a thread on that guy.... cause the delay you get in the throttle can be very annoying
Can't lie, I would love to see the 4.6 or even the 5.7 in the 4runner! :cheers:
this is what the 4 runner needs 325 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm..this works !!!
lower RPM higher torque . needs 50 more ft -lbs ..
this may work http://tuningtechfs.com/toyota-4runner-ecu-tune/
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MrJux
Member
Oh, I love it. I drove a Taco for five years, I knew what I was (and wasn't) getting into.
Unlike OP, some of us do our homework.
Jetboy
New member
It's kind of always been my opinion that the 4Runner is simply geared incorrectly. This is mostly from my experience having an RX350 as my wife's car. It has essentially the same curb weight within a few hundred pounds. And a smaller 3.5 liter engine with about the same horsepower but less torque. In normal driving you would think it has 50 more horsepower. But the real difference is that the RX 350 like the Highlander and some of the other crossovers have 4.40 gear ratio in the differential. And much shorter tires. They can get away with it because they also have a double overdrive 6-speed transmission. My bet would be if you drove a 4Runner with stock tires and 4:30 gear ratio or even 410 it would feel significantly more powerful because it would more easily spin up into the higher RPM ranges of first gear. I think the engine is more than adequate but the transmission in gearing in the axles are not. Unfortunately I think 4.56 ratio is too low for stock ish tire height. And there's really no alternative option other than doing a complete axle swap. So we're kind of stuck with what we got.
Also the 4Runner is pretty darn heavy for what it is. You don't have to go back that far to find Tahoes that had lower curb weight. On the other hand I spent a week driving a Suburban last week and was surprised to find that they don't even come with low range anymore. So I'm not sure how comparable of a vehicle they are. There's really no pretence whatsoever of going off pavement anymore. Even something like a RAV4 has more ground clearance than a current model Tahoe or Suburban. But I was very impressed by the mileage. Over 650 miles of pretty hilly terrain I still averaged 22 miles per gallon. I think being very low to the ground and aerodynamic goes a long way. The horsepower was great too. But some of the other stuff was pretty frustrating. The lane keep assist function was absolutely horrible. It's much better to drive with it turned off. It basically pinballs back and forth between the two lanes, rather than keeping you in the center of your driving lane. And the seats were pretty uncomfortable which is odd because I've owned a few Suburbans and thought they used to be pretty good.
Also the 4Runner is pretty darn heavy for what it is. You don't have to go back that far to find Tahoes that had lower curb weight. On the other hand I spent a week driving a Suburban last week and was surprised to find that they don't even come with low range anymore. So I'm not sure how comparable of a vehicle they are. There's really no pretence whatsoever of going off pavement anymore. Even something like a RAV4 has more ground clearance than a current model Tahoe or Suburban. But I was very impressed by the mileage. Over 650 miles of pretty hilly terrain I still averaged 22 miles per gallon. I think being very low to the ground and aerodynamic goes a long way. The horsepower was great too. But some of the other stuff was pretty frustrating. The lane keep assist function was absolutely horrible. It's much better to drive with it turned off. It basically pinballs back and forth between the two lanes, rather than keeping you in the center of your driving lane. And the seats were pretty uncomfortable which is odd because I've owned a few Suburbans and thought they used to be pretty good.
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I like it so far. Plenty of available power, smooth, quiet. Looks good. The only thing I'm not in love with is the touchiness of the 8 speed transmission. So many gears that just barely a squeeze on the throttle and you get a (often unnecessary) downshift. My Accord V6 was a 5 speed and I liked its shifting pattern and propensities better. But, we're in the age of MPG and umpteen gears seems to be the norm now. Great for fuel consumption and sucky for driving enjoyment.
I came from a Sequoia that I put 225k miles on...I thought the 4Runner was under powered at first to, but it's fine now. I was just used to the torque of the V8 and how the gas pedal felt....4Runner definitely shifts more, but it has more gears to work with and I'm happy with it.
Muzzle of Bees
New member
The list posts the 4th generation years. How will this help the 5th generation people? Am I missing something?
Teamoatmealpie
New member
Google - Sprintbooster- problem solved.
heyitsmeraj
New member
I am using Pedal Commander for 5th Gen 4runner SR5 and I am never going back to stock. I use the City Mode and its been excellent and improved my driving experience. I would highly recommend this.
Thrasher_S
New member
People want to shoehorn themselves into a vehicle that isn't designed for their intended use, or they buy for the extreme situation to the detriment of 90%+ of their driving...
The 4Runner isn't, and never has been, designed to be a tow vehicle... It's a very comfortable and reliable mid-size SUV with varying levels of off-road capability (depending on trim, year, mods, etc.) that can be used for towing smaller loads. If towing is your main concern, there are plenty of far better options. Some are even cheaper if you go with a base model. I tow a motorcycle trailer with a pair of dirtbikes between 0 and 3 times a month and it does just fine. I have towed larger trailers, the biggest being a loaded 6x12 Uhaul box trailer, and it did great everywhere but steep grades and/or high elevation. I've also carried 4 adults, 3 dogs, and a back full of camping gear up a pretty gnarly forest service road that turned out to be more of a trail. A 4Runner isn't going to pull a heavy load up a mountain pass at 80mph without breaking a sweat, and I'm surprised anybody would expect it to do so...
Sure, I could pick up an F-350 with a diesel, but it would be worse at literally everything except towing and hauling loads.
I see similar posts and discussions on motorcycle forums all the time, especially directed at electric motorcycles. Of course, some people just hate the idea of electric bikes so they set rediculous standards and move the goalposts if needed.
"I'll buy an electric motorcycle when it's as fast as a Hayabusa, corners like a Panigale, tours like a Goldwing, handles off-road like 500 EXC-F, and costs as much as used Ninja 250."
The 4Runner isn't, and never has been, designed to be a tow vehicle... It's a very comfortable and reliable mid-size SUV with varying levels of off-road capability (depending on trim, year, mods, etc.) that can be used for towing smaller loads. If towing is your main concern, there are plenty of far better options. Some are even cheaper if you go with a base model. I tow a motorcycle trailer with a pair of dirtbikes between 0 and 3 times a month and it does just fine. I have towed larger trailers, the biggest being a loaded 6x12 Uhaul box trailer, and it did great everywhere but steep grades and/or high elevation. I've also carried 4 adults, 3 dogs, and a back full of camping gear up a pretty gnarly forest service road that turned out to be more of a trail. A 4Runner isn't going to pull a heavy load up a mountain pass at 80mph without breaking a sweat, and I'm surprised anybody would expect it to do so...
Sure, I could pick up an F-350 with a diesel, but it would be worse at literally everything except towing and hauling loads.
I see similar posts and discussions on motorcycle forums all the time, especially directed at electric motorcycles. Of course, some people just hate the idea of electric bikes so they set rediculous standards and move the goalposts if needed.
"I'll buy an electric motorcycle when it's as fast as a Hayabusa, corners like a Panigale, tours like a Goldwing, handles off-road like 500 EXC-F, and costs as much as used Ninja 250."
