Has anybody actually driven a 2020 yet

The venture doesn't have the Pro Fox. The guy in the video doesn't know what he is talking about. None of the specs released mention the Fox to be a part of the Venture trim.


The guy is the Vice President of Marketing and didn't even know the color of the Venture!
 
There’s not a snowballs chance that there will be a new engine/tranny for 2021. In fact, I would not expect to see any real changes to the ‘21s since an all new model is supposed to arrive in 2022.
The biggest, maybe only, difference aside from the obvious cosmetics, is that the TRD Pro has the Fox suspension and the venture does not (though can be optioned with the KDSS)

what leads you to believe that the Fox suspension are offered as an option for the Venture with KDSS? Curious to find out.
 
what leads you to believe that the Fox suspension are offered as an option for the Venture with KDSS? Curious to find out.

TFL had a video and someone from Toyota mentioned it, probably incorrectly. The Toyota rep seemed super excited about the new Highlander but didn't even know what the color (Barcelona Red) on the 4Runner was even called.
 
So I went to Stevinson Toyota West in Golden to try and test drive a '20 SR5 (just to see the interior changes and safety features, no Limited models available yet) and they wouldn't let me because they were too busy. They also said Colorado law does not allow solo test drives (False).

I kinda forgot how much I absolutely hate Toyota dealerships.
 
So I went to Stevinson Toyota West in Golden to try and test drive a '20 SR5 (just to see the interior changes and safety features, no Limited models available yet) and they wouldn't let me because they were too busy. They also said Colorado law does not allow solo test drives (False).

I kinda forgot how much I absolutely hate Toyota dealerships.

Correct. That is false. I've test driven many cars in Colorado solo - and some with salespeople
 

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