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So the guy driving was a cop and couldn't figure out to throw it in neutral and turn the ignition off? But yet they had time to call 911?
 
So the guy driving was a cop and couldn't figure out to throw it in neutral and turn the ignition off? But yet they had time to call 911?

Beats me, that would have been the first thing I would do. I know of no car that "prevents" you from doing that.

Hell I did it just the other day on the 4R by accident.

I was watching the news about a year ago and a woman called 911 because she lost her brakes completely in her Ford Explorer...yea figures I know....she didnt even think to down shift from drive to 4/3/2 etc etc. She gave the police her location and they had an officer stop in front of her slowing her car down. She was lucky as it was during the rush hour commute.

Some people just cant drive.
 
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Put it in neutral.....who cares if you hit the redline.

Poor family.


Exactly. Neutral, pull over to the emergency lane, shut off the engine and brake to stop. The vacuum booster has enough power reserved for two or three assisted braking/stops.

Alternatively, floor liners could get around the "stuck accelarator" provided they are installed properly the first time and under the pedal. Husky's have sharp tacks underneath that will prevent them from sliding around.
 
Really? Investigators can't come up with a better theory than stuck floor mats? Between the ignition, brake pedal, emergency brake, and shifter, I find it hard to believe that all of these separate systems would have failed simultaneously and led to a deadly crash. Human error is almost certainly the cause but someone decides that maybe it's floor mats.
 
So the guy driving was a cop and couldn't figure out to throw it in neutral and turn the ignition off? But yet they had time to call 911?

Yeah, the funny thing though is he sounded pretty calm, like he tried the brakes... He must not have had any brakes either... but definitely put it in neutral and turn off the ignition, at least that way you wont be accelerating into another car, youd just be coasting into one,

Sad story though,
 
I had a similar experience with my weathertech's. I was on a 2 lane highway and when I punched it to pass a slow truck it got stuck. Luckily I thought quickly and was able to simply reach down and pull the mat back. Very scary experience!
 
It may be my bitterness and cynicism, but I smell a flock of bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, useless ambulance chasers going for some big pockets.

I agree, a presumable well-trained, experienced law enforcement officer could do nithing to stop the car? Turn the engine off, shift to neutral, pull the e-brake, but there is a good 15 seconds on the 9-1-1 tape and who knows long before the call the car had this problem.

I know that I am armchair quarterbacking this, but I can't help but shake my head.
 
thats what being a jackass gets you, i purchased a set of the those rubber mats from toyota and in the package with the directions in big letters it says do not double up the mats due to sticking gas pedal. if that guy was to stupid to read the directions shame on him. i know i mihgt sound alittle heartless but its cause of jerkoffs like him is the reason why people in this country make a big deal out of nothing especially when most things that happen like this could have just been avoided only if they took the time to read the DIRECTIONS.
 
thats what being a jackass gets you, i purchased a set of the those rubber mats from toyota and in the package with the directions in big letters it says do not double up the mats due to sticking gas pedal. if that guy was to stupid to read the directions shame on him. i know i mihgt sound alittle heartless but its cause of jerkoffs like him is the reason why people in this country make a big deal out of nothing especially when most things that happen like this could have just been avoided only if they took the time to read the DIRECTIONS.


Could be wrong....but I BELIEVE it was a rental/loaner car.
 
It may be my bitterness and cynicism, but I smell a flock of bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, useless ambulance chasers going for some big pockets.

I agree, a presumable well-trained, experienced law enforcement officer could do nithing to stop the car? Turn the engine off, shift to neutral, pull the e-brake, but there is a good 15 seconds on the 9-1-1 tape and who knows long before the call the car had this problem.

I know that I am armchair quarterbacking this, but I can't help but shake my head.

The whole loss of life thing is a tragedy but :iagree: 100%
 
"The average auto driver doesn't have the training needed to handle a crisis like this" Or words to that effect.

If they would stop giving drivers' licenses to anyone that has a pulse & can parallel park, maybe that would change. How frakkin' hard is it to shift to neutral, or step on the clutch if it's a stick?

All due condolences to the family, but this was preventable. By the driver.
 
Exactly. Neutral, pull over to the emergency lane, shut off the engine and brake to stop. The vacuum booster has enough power reserved for two or three assisted braking/stops.

Alternatively, floor liners could get around the "stuck accelarator" provided they are installed properly the first time and under the pedal. Husky's have sharp tacks underneath that will prevent them from sliding around.

Don't shut off the engine until you are stopped or you will lose your power steering.
 
Well, in our 'looking for the next scapegoat' and 'find an explanation so that your average joe smoe can understand' society...I'm wondering if the floormat really had anything to do with it.

How many here know what fly-by-wire is? Well that technology that first appeared on fighter jets (i.e., F-16) is now in our cars...in our cars and trucks and suvs today...do we really have control over them...or is our inputs being relayed to via some glitch prone computer? (Didn't a f-22 raptor crash recently due to a computer glitch?)

Vehicles today, a driver has very little DIRECT control of anything, I believe...there is no throttle cable anymore, no direct electrical link from ignition key (if even present) to starter or ignition, etc.

When I was a engineering student...one of my professors told about how 747s would just start falling out of the air after so many flight hours on autopilot...and I don't think they ever figured out why...some sort of computer glitch. Scary.

More and more, a computer, not us, is controlling our vehicles...and we let it happen...because we can't get our fat lazy @ss to learn to do a simple things like parallel park or set the clock on the VCR..we make things more complex to, I suppose, make our lives easier, but we might be shooting ourselves in the foot.

2012! end of the world, bring it on!

Geez, I shouldn't be writing in the forum while medicated...
 
The safety advisory was prompted by an accident in August that killed four near San Diego. In that incident, a floor mat trapped the gas pedal on a 2009 Lexus ES 350, causing it to accelerate out of control, hit an SUV, launch off an embankment, and burst into flames.

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in the U.S. said it had received reports of 102 incidents in which the accelerator may have become stuck on the Toyota vehicles involved. The problem has led to 13 crashes, 17 injuries and five fatalities in Toyota vehicles, according to NHTSA.

So this wasn't the first fatality?
 
Assuming the throttle is fly-by-wire, which I think it is, it's not going to be able to tell the difference between a foot and a floormat pressing the gas pedal.
And even if the computer had malfunctioned and opened the throttle w/out anything on the pedal, the driver should have still been able to place it in neutral, turn the key off, or hit the brakes.


Well, in our 'looking for the next scapegoat' and 'find an explanation so that your average joe smoe can understand' society...I'm wondering if the floormat really had anything to do with it.

How many here know what fly-by-wire is? Well that technology that first appeared on fighter jets (i.e., F-16) is now in our cars...in our cars and trucks and suvs today...do we really have control over them...or is our inputs being relayed to via some glitch prone computer? (Didn't a f-22 raptor crash recently due to a computer glitch?)

Vehicles today, a driver has very little DIRECT control of anything, I believe...there is no throttle cable anymore, no direct electrical link from ignition key (if even present) to starter or ignition, etc.

When I was a engineering student...one of my professors told about how 747s would just start falling out of the air after so many flight hours on autopilot...and I don't think they ever figured out why...some sort of computer glitch. Scary.

More and more, a computer, not us, is controlling our vehicles...and we let it happen...because we can't get our fat lazy @ss to learn to do a simple things like parallel park or set the clock on the VCR..we make things more complex to, I suppose, make our lives easier, but we might be shooting ourselves in the foot.


2012! end of the world, bring it on!

Geez, I shouldn't be writing in the forum while medicated...
 
Assuming the throttle is fly-by-wire, which I think it is, it's not going to be able to tell the difference between a foot and a floormat pressing the gas pedal.
And even if the computer had malfunctioned and opened the throttle w/out anything on the pedal, the driver should have still been able to place it in neutral, turn the key off, or hit the brakes.

Yeah I thought all vehicles were still using hydraulic braking systems with mechanical levers. And the emergency brake is always (I think) strictly mechanical in the event of systems failure. Throttle response and transmission control seem to be all by wire in new vehicles. Power steering by wire is a scary thing, but again most vehicles seem to be a mechanical hydraulic setup.
 

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