help! e3 spark plugs myths

[loki the trickster]

e3 spark plugs state that more power and better fuel econ. but i have seen a lot of youtube comment that say that e3 spark plugs can burn holes in the piston or cause other types of damage or another says that their was no increas in fuel econ and they had to replace them after 1k miles. i would like to get better power and fuel econ i am starting school soon. the school i am going to is 20mi give or take!

can some one debunk this myth? oh its a 86 22re 5speed.

 

[BucknutBob]

Tried and true wins

e3 spark plugs state that more power and better fuel econ. but i have seen a lot of youtube comment that say that e3 spark plugs can burn holes in the piston or cause other types of damage or another says that their was no increas in fuel econ and they had to replace them after 1k miles. i would like to get better power and fuel econ i am starting school soon. the school i am going to is 20mi give or take!

can some one debunk this myth? oh its a 86 22re 5speed.

Getting better mileage is kinda' like losing weight (your own, that is)--there is NO "magic bullet" that's going to do it all. You've probably already heard of most of the best things to do: free-flowing exhaust and intake, properly aired tires, synthetic oil, clean filters, and sensible driving. As for spark plugs, a good set of NGK's are as good a bet as any. Stay away from fads and whiz-bang cure-alls ("super" plugs, "tornado" intakes, magnets, etc.).

 

[loki the trickster]

Getting better mileage is kinda' like losing weight (your own, that is)--there is NO "magic bullet" that's going to do it all. You've probably already heard of most of the best things to do: free-flowing exhaust and intake, properly aired tires, synthetic oil, clean filters, and sensible driving. As for spark plugs, a good set of NGK's are as good a bet as any. Stay away from fads and whiz-bang cure-alls ("super" plugs, "tornado" intakes, magnets, etc.).

sorry, a ex co-worker who owned 2 22re 4runners(an '87-'88) told me that he had to go to a toyota dismantler and buy another stock mufler. his daly driver('87) lost mpg cause their was not enough back pressure.i dont know how much of this is true but i do know that 22re motors need back pressure so i'll leave the muffler for later when i have mor time and money!

i want to go with royal purple in the truck, but it is out of my current price range. but e3 plugs are between $6-$8ea and i can do this in 20 min and i dont need to gap them!

 

[ToyoTech]

junk. dont do it. if they really do improve MPG, wouldnt you think every car maker would be using them so their window sticker that shows MPG be higher. a tune up is all you need if your in need. use oem parts. also dont get the purple food colored oil. its not worth the extra cost for their oil when you have to change your oil every 3k anyways. also use factory oil filter imo are best

its not back pressure you need. you want correct exhaust velocity. back pressure is not good for any motor

 

[loki the trickster]

junk. dont do it. if they really do improve MPG, wouldnt you think every car maker would be using them so their window sticker that shows MPG be higher. a tune up is all you need if your in need. use oem parts. also dont get the purple food colored oil. its not worth the extra cost for their oil when you have to change your oil every 3k anyways. also use factory oil filter imo are best

its not back pressure you need. you want correct exhaust velocity. back pressure is not good for any motor

i hope i dont sound ungrateful but i just wanted to know if their was a issue with the 22re and the e3 spark plugs! wich their is with more research i'v self concluded that their is not enough power in the coil to make the e3 work the way that they are stated to work so thoes are out. i think i'll go with the ngk g-power plugs unless i find any thing bad about thoes plugs.

well i dont really know what else to say about the back pressure thing i have read that you can test for back pressure at the o2 sensor bung their should be between 2-4psi on a 22re. but i also can say that velocity is also key!

 

[ToyoTech]

yea its best to run oem plugs and factory exhaust. there are alot of things you can do but the things im thinking of are smaller tires, lower the ride, and stuff that can help reduce weight. your driving habits can help too. run some fuel cleaners or pump chevron every once in a while

 

[BucknutBob]

Bigger isn't always better

i hope i dont sound ungrateful but i just wanted to know if their was a issue with the 22re and the e3 spark plugs! wich their is with more research i'v self concluded that their is not enough power in the coil to make the e3 work the way that they are stated to work so thoes are out. i think i'll go with the ngk g-power plugs unless i find any thing bad about thoes plugs.

well i dont really know what else to say about the back pressure thing i have read that you can test for back pressure at the o2 sensor bung their should be between 2-4psi on a 22re. but i also can say that velocity is also key!

Loki, you are correct in that you CAN go too big on the exhaust and hurt performance (and mileage), but that doesn't mean that stock is best, either. This is why so much research goes into tube diameter for headers and exhaust systems, and different designs like tri-y headers. If you go with a reputable performance company that matches the exhaust to the specific applications (not just the cheapest system or the fanciest ad), you WILL gain both power and MPG. A system that's too large in diameter will reduce torque, make the engine work harder, and hurt your mileage. And as far as NGK's, you're not likely to find much better quality.

 

[loki the trickster]

yea its best to run oem plugs and factory exhaust. there are alot of things you can do but the things im thinking of are smaller tires, lower the ride, and stuff that can help reduce weight. your driving habits can help too. run some fuel cleaners or pump chevron every once in a while

i think like i sad i'll go with the ngk g's, i do throw like a quarter to a third of a can of seafoam or b12 chemtool in the tank once in a while for the injectors!

 

[ToyoTech]

nice i love seafoam

 

[Ricky2Martin]

e3 spark plugs state that more power and better fuel econ. but i have seen a lot of youtube comment that say that e3 spark plugs can burn holes in the piston or cause other types of damage or another says that their was no increas in fuel econ and they had to replace them after 1k miles. i would like to get better power and fuel econ i am starting school soon. the school i am going to is 20mi give or take!

can some one debunk this myth? oh its a 86 22re 5speed.

I would vote for the 100,000-mile plugs was EOL and you would have noticed a similar gain with new factory plugs. One problem with computer controls is they can adjust around issues and do a good job of making it seem like nothing is wrong. Might do a code check on it and see if there are any noncheck engine type codes about the spark plugs.