I just put Michelin LTX MS2 on Monday. I replaced the same and they had 50K on them since I bought the truck. Not sure how many miles total. But I put a set on a Suburban several years ago and had over 90K on them when I sold it and they still had tread. I don't mind spending the extra money for them when they last that long. I got vibration out of every other set of tires I ever had on the Sububan. When I put on the Michelin's no more vibration. Oh yeah, and I went through some heave snow when I lived in Colorado.
Help me pick a tire - Im torn
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Sporin
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Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar is on my radar.
Seems similar to the Silent Armors but a bit higher rated on TireRack. I think it has a bit more tread depth, and most likely a stronger sidewall.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...with+Kevlar&partnum=665TR7WATAOWL&tab=Reviews
Seems similar to the Silent Armors but a bit higher rated on TireRack. I think it has a bit more tread depth, and most likely a stronger sidewall.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...with+Kevlar&partnum=665TR7WATAOWL&tab=Reviews
rileyru
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I just removed the 265/70/17 Michelin LTX M/S2 tires which came on my 4runner, and replaced them with Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure / Kevlar in the same size.
The Michelins were decent tires. They were quiet, rode well, and wore evenly. We went full on, 4-low and diff locked, redneck-style mud slinging and they pulled us through. However, at only five years old (only driven by previous owner for around 3 years and low miles) and with plenty of tread life left, they had severe cracks between the treads. I hear this is common with Michelins?
The Goodyears are amazing. I did not notice any more tire noise. I swear the ride (steering response and cornering feel) is the same as well. The Goodyear tread looks great and I'm sure will offer even better traction. I think the warranty is the same at 60k miles. But the price difference is incredible! New Michelins would have been about $300 more for a set.
The Michelins were decent tires. They were quiet, rode well, and wore evenly. We went full on, 4-low and diff locked, redneck-style mud slinging and they pulled us through. However, at only five years old (only driven by previous owner for around 3 years and low miles) and with plenty of tread life left, they had severe cracks between the treads. I hear this is common with Michelins?
The Goodyears are amazing. I did not notice any more tire noise. I swear the ride (steering response and cornering feel) is the same as well. The Goodyear tread looks great and I'm sure will offer even better traction. I think the warranty is the same at 60k miles. But the price difference is incredible! New Michelins would have been about $300 more for a set.
daka320
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We currently have 45k on the MS2's. Wonderful tire! Expensive but well worth the $$$ for a dd with the occasional weekend getaway. Should get another 45k.
We installed the Cooper Discoverer AT3's on our Tundra. Ride is not as smooth as other tires, but for the $$$ was the best deal out there. It serves well for towing a 6k tt and offroad. It is a 10ply LT tire. Only has 8k miles on them. So far so good.
We installed the Cooper Discoverer AT3's on our Tundra. Ride is not as smooth as other tires, but for the $$$ was the best deal out there. It serves well for towing a 6k tt and offroad. It is a 10ply LT tire. Only has 8k miles on them. So far so good.
Riseagainst
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I had The wranglers All terrains for 7 years. No failures no holes.
The only reason I replaced them was because of the age. They didn't even dry rot on the side walls like most tires do. The was plenty of tread left too.
I replaced them 6 months ago with wranglers all adventures. Same basic tire and it's still fantastic. I swear by them. I will forever swear by them.
The only reason I replaced them was because of the age. They didn't even dry rot on the side walls like most tires do. The was plenty of tread left too.
I replaced them 6 months ago with wranglers all adventures. Same basic tire and it's still fantastic. I swear by them. I will forever swear by them.
Riseagainst
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I will advise to stay way from general grabber 2's. I had a set of them on my 2500hd truck and two of the rears blew on the freeway and the fronts had a groove of tread that fell off.
I won't even ride in a car if it has general tires I don't trust them that much.
I won't even ride in a car if it has general tires I don't trust them that much.
rubbertoe
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I just recently put on a set of Goodyear silent armor pro grade ,can't report too much yet as i haven't owned them long enough to report in depth on them .but i will say this, at first i was looking into another set of Kelly Safari m/t (I have on another vehicle)a great looking tire but is more at home off road . after shopping a bit ended up with the Silent Armor pro grade. I'm glad i did,as the Silent Armor pro grade seems like it will be a much better suited crossover tire for me ,with a wider range of performance features for the different types of driving conditions i will be doing allot of , and still covers some might be doing.The on-road performance is great so far ,so next is off-road testing ,i cant wait to try these with a super low tire pressure, in say for instance deep sandy combo'd with sharp rock desert type conditions, like so much of our local stuff .This for me will be the test that will prove how well the 10 ply kevlar re-enforced sidewalls work and hold up.Needless to say ,Im happy so far !
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Jerrydog
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Michelin AT2 are the best I have ever had on a daily driver SUV. Expensive but worth it. I will say I'm not going to get 50k miles out of them but they are wearing very even and are quiet and great in the snow. I think i paid about 1100 with alignment and lifetime rotation and balance. As for you folks who drive in the snow, these SUV's are feather lite in the back end so add 250 lbs of tube sand to the back for the winter and the snow performance doubles.
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Bringin out the defibrillator for this thread lol
So I'm headed back home in a few weeks and I want to get a set of ATs on while I'm home. Previously I was considering a whole list of tires but Ive spent a little more on :cheers: this semester than was expecting (woops?).
My new list is:
BFG Rugged Terrain
Nitto Terra Grappler
Cooper Discover AT3
Firestone Destination AT
Really I need a modest AT tire that will handle the snow well and some light wheeling. I also need a tire that's comfortable on the highway as Ill be doing a few trips from NJ/VA --> SW Florida as my family is moving this summer (Ill still be living in the VA mountains for the next few years).
As far as road manners go, I don't care about road noise, but I do want "ok" highway MPG and a smooth highway ride.
Help me choose!
So I'm headed back home in a few weeks and I want to get a set of ATs on while I'm home. Previously I was considering a whole list of tires but Ive spent a little more on :cheers: this semester than was expecting (woops?).
My new list is:
BFG Rugged Terrain
Nitto Terra Grappler
Cooper Discover AT3
Firestone Destination AT
Really I need a modest AT tire that will handle the snow well and some light wheeling. I also need a tire that's comfortable on the highway as Ill be doing a few trips from NJ/VA --> SW Florida as my family is moving this summer (Ill still be living in the VA mountains for the next few years).
As far as road manners go, I don't care about road noise, but I do want "ok" highway MPG and a smooth highway ride.
Help me choose!
JB.
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Easy. The one with the best price. All those tires (and many more) fit your needs.
There just isn't a lot of difference between tires in the same category and whatever difference there is, is nearly impossible to establish except for the really obvious ones like aggressiveness of tread, etc.
If that simple algorithm doesn't work for you, you'll just have to wait until some commentary comes along and paints a vivid picture in your mind of the greatest tire ever so you can pull the trigger.
DaChamp
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Yesterday I actually just installed 4 new 265/70/17 Cooper ATP from Discount Tire. After doing more research than necessary, I landed on these over the BFG AT because they were ~$70 cheaper per tire.
Not sure if DiscountTire makes an extra dime by selling the ATP (Discount Tire version of the AT3 made especially for DT by Cooper), but I am happy with the quiet ride for a nice looking and feeling AT tire.
I'll give an update after 10k-15k and see how its still working.
Not sure if DiscountTire makes an extra dime by selling the ATP (Discount Tire version of the AT3 made especially for DT by Cooper), but I am happy with the quiet ride for a nice looking and feeling AT tire.
I'll give an update after 10k-15k and see how its still working.
awdjunkies
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I know it's not on the list but... I happen to be extremely happy with my General Grabber AT2s
Drak
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I don't think there's much more help to be offered TBH.
You've done the research, read the reviews, read the comments, and boiled it down to 4 winners.
It's already been said that they'll all work for what you want.
There's really nothing left for you to do except make the choice and buy the tires, from this point no one can do that for you but you.
I've been running BFG at/ko's load E exclusively on my SUV's for nearly 25 years and am friggin' ready for a change of pace now.
Those tires never let me down, but they run really hard & rough past 40% wear point and I got tired of it.
So I chose the Cooper AT3's in load C with driver comfort/normal driving w/ snow traction a high consideration this time.
The BFG Rugged Terrains have no siping so that killed it for me with snow traction being a consideration.
JB.
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Not unreasonable at all. You're preachin' to the choir. If you don't believe it, try to make your way through this. I won't blame you if you don't make it.
Perhaps you've heard the expression, "I'm sorry I wrote such a long letter, I didn't have time to write a short one".
My advice above is kind of like the short letter. It took a lot of whittling to eventually get to it, though.
If you're enjoying the buying process (perfectly understandable), carry on and good luck.
