help please - auto shifter won't go past neutral

dangeruss

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1st post, but I've been stalkin these forums for about 3 weeks now, pretty much since I purchased my (first) runner. tried searching, but didn't turn anything up so here it goes:

98 LTD 4wd 140k miles, totally stock from what i can tell.

short story: shifter wouldn't go past neutral from drive. no reverse, no park, no taking the key out.

long story: it's snowing here in north texas. temps are above freezing, and big ole flakes were coming down. we headed out to church and my plan was to roll 2wd except for maybe the 2 or 3 bridges we'd cross. it had been snowing for about an hour and the streets hadn't yet seen much traffic so they were fairly slick. i went ahead and hit the 4wd (hi) early on and wound up keeping it on the whole ~15 miles. it was slow going (under 40mph) the whole way. we made one stop within the first 3 miles to pick up my daughter. pulled into the driveway, put into park, then reverse, then back on our way. 4wd on the whole time. we got to church, pulled up in the parking lot, and i went to back into a spot but it wouldn't go into reverse. based on the feel of the feedback of the shifter, it seemed purely mechanical, as if something were blocking it from going further, like trying to put it into gear from park without the brake pedal depressed. i tried the shift lock button, nothing. tried putting the 4wd shifter into neutral, nothing. 4lo, nothing. i was all crooked up in a handicap spot nosed up to the curb at this point, so i pushed it in the snow covered parking lot (fun!) until it was backed into a spot. put it in neutral, turned it off, and left the key in the ignition. when we left, the roads were much better and i left it in 2wd the whole way home. the couple times we stopped, i tried to put it into reverse with no avail. at one point, i couldn't even get it into neutral. we get home and as i'm idling in front of the house waiting for my wife to move her car out of the garage, (my side is full of bikes/crap) i was finally able to slide it into reverse. it wasn't super smooth like normal, but it went back and forth without a major problem. got it into the garage, and it slid into park. the situation is better now, but i'd hate to get stuck somewhere without reverse and without being able to take the key out. any ideas on whats going on here? i'm thinking something got gunked up somewhere, but where? i'd like to go play on some of the snowy dirt roads around the house, but i don't really want to take it out with it like this.
 
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At first I was going to suggest that your brake lights were burnt out. Yeah I know it sounds stupid but it'll trip the ABS and trans lockout. It doesn't sound like that is the problem..

Was the snow very slushy?

One year, while driving in a foot of slush, my whole under carriage and suspension froze into a solid chunk of ice. It froze around the driveshaft and totally locked out the suspension. I had to hammer the ice out. I bet there was over 100 pounds of ice under there.

Slush could have frozen around the linkage.
 
Yea that happened to me as well. The snow just packs in around the lever that moves around gear selector. Really scared me when it happened though!
 
At first I was going to suggest that your brake lights were burnt out. Yeah I know it sounds stupid but it'll trip the ABS and trans lockout. It doesn't sound like that is the problem..

Was the snow very slushy?

One year, while driving in a foot of slush, my whole under carriage and suspension froze into a solid chunk of ice. It froze around the driveshaft and totally locked out the suspension. I had to hammer the ice out. I bet there was over 100 pounds of ice under there.

Slush could have frozen around the linkage.

snow was more slush...ier on the way home than the way there. that, and temps were above freezing (~35).

yea that happened to me as well. The snow just packs in around the lever that moves around gear selector. Really scared me when it happened though!

ya, i just went out to the garage, fired it up, then ran thru the gears without any problem. had to have been gunked up from accumulation. fortunately it doesn't snow very much here in ntx. any suggestions as to where/how to clear it out? the whole situation could have sucked big time. (spun out, then pointed right at a wall with no ability to reverse, leaving the keys in the ignition in a much more public place, not even being able to get into N, etc.) i was fortunate in that i wasn't super worried about leaving it in the church parking lot, and that i was able to push it backwards.
 
A belly skid should keep slush off the linkage.

You could spray it down with an oil like WD-40 or something. That should keep slush/ice from building up on it.
 
Yea it seems like the real slushy snow that gets it. I was taking care of my friends dog when it snowed I pulled the 4runner up into the driveway and into the garage, wouldn't shift out of drive! I shut it off thinking some kinda of computer glitch or something, to find that I couldn't turn it back on. Well after a long time wondering what the hell went wrong I found out it was a snow jam underneath the car. I got down on my back in the freezing cold with a crappy ice scraped and scraped it all out onto the garage floor. I spray WD-40 in the wheel wells and snow dosen't accumulate there, So like Gerado said, I bet if you sprayed it on the linkage it would help.
 
thanks for the help. i took it out on the snowy dirt roads for a bit and didn't have much a of a problem. i did stop at one point just to try putting it in park and it was a little bit tough once, but after that it went back and forth without an issue.

got down on my back in the freezing cold with a crappy ice scraped and scraped it all out onto the garage floor.

that's a high level of suckage. i'm glad i was able to at least get it into neutral earlier....
 
thanks for the help. i took it out on the snowy dirt roads for a bit and didn't have much a of a problem. i did stop at one point just to try putting it in park and it was a little bit tough once, but after that it went back and forth without an issue.



that's a high level of suckage. i'm glad i was able to at least get it into neutral earlier....


Haha it was bad, I removed the mud flaps, which made it worse, so through out the day this happened two me twice. The second time was in the Mcdonalds parking lot, and it sucked even worse
 
This is the 1st time I ever experienced the problem putting the car into park or reverse.
The road conditions were wet snow and icy for the entire trip. The car could go into neutral and drive 1 & 2. I was able to turn the car off but not remove the key. The next day the weather was warmer and I was able to drive the car. It has been 3 weeks since then and I have not had any problems.

After using the 4 wheel drive traveling from Providence to Boston 50 minutes approx. drive time, travel speed was 30-50 mphs.

Should I spray the linkage every year
 

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