Help pricing my 4Runner vs keeping it??

I drove the 4th Gen TL with a 6 speed transmission, and it was impressive. Has > 300 HP. Honda manual transmissions are bulletproof reliable and the J series engine is as well. I've driven the 08' GS350 AWD, and I liked it a lot, just wish it looked a little better.

I've been out of touch with Acura's since about 2005 but when I worked at an Acura dealership during undergrad in the early 2000's, I remember a lot of transmission recalls and failures across Honda's & acura's in general. Haven't looked into their transmissions since then but have you heard of anything regarding their transmissions since then?

I do think the 08 GS 350s are pretty sweet.
 
A couple different viewpoints:

3rd Gen T4R as a 3rd extra vehicle.
If you can afford the new vehicle without selling your 3rd gen as a financial cushion, consider this. As an add-on with minimum legal insurance, that's hardly any extra per month. You'll have to register/inspect it once a year and maybe a couple oil changes if you stick with synthetic? Some gas stabilizer in the tank so it won't go back from sitting. That'll be maybe $200-$300 a year to have a ready to go backup driver that's very capable and that you know is maintained well and reliable?

Keeping the 3rd gen as your DD.
If you put the lift, wheels, and tires back down to stock, you could probably stay close to 22-24 mpgs, especially if most of your drive is highway. You'll still have 4wd when necessary, and stock, it's still pretty capable.
When these trucks aren't modded and you stay off the skinny pedal, they actually make pretty good MPG.
You are probably only at half life with this truck, and you know the maintenance is good. You can do most of the work yourself, unlike newer vehicles, which saves significant money.


Based on what people are saying here, you probably won't get more than $7.5k for your T4R, and I'm seeing on CL that a base 2wd Lexus or Acura is starting around $12k, and those aren't in the best condition. So that's $4.5k extra at the minimum that you'll need to shell out, plus getting all maintenance up to date. Timing belt, fluid changes, spark plugs, etc. So if you sell the 4Runner and buy the Lexus or Acura, you'll need to pay an extra $5k at the minimum.
How many gallons of gas could that buy you if you stuck with the 3rd Gen?

Also, don't forget, a newer vehicle (especially a luxury vehicle) will cost a good deal more to insure, so you might not see much of a difference monthly. You'll probably want better insurance, too, because you can't just say,
"**** it, I'll go to a junkyard for a new bumper", when you get rear ended.

+1 to the keep it and revert back to stock camp.

Ever since I caught up on my maintenance and revitalization of mine I've regularly seen over 350 miles to a tank in the city and over 400 on the highway. 17-19/22-24mpg respectively. One of the primary reasons I will be keeping her stock for the time being.

Also, the best kind of car is the paid off kind. I wouldn't sell either of my cars for one where I have payments again. The value of older vehicles is in all the little things. Cheaper insurance, wealth of resources for DIY, less taxes, less registration fees, don't have to worry about as much, NO CAR PAYMENT, owning the title of your vehicle outright, the list goes on.

I mean, I tell people that sentiment only goes so far, but with our Toyota's we don't have to worry too much about cost for repair outlay exceeding what a new car payment/insurance would be every month...hopefully. If it ever does start to that's when I recommend a new car with a warranty for obvious reasons.
 
I've been out of touch with Acura's since about 2005 but when I worked at an Acura dealership during undergrad in the early 2000's, I remember a lot of transmission recalls and failures across Honda's & acura's in general. Haven't looked into their transmissions since then but have you heard of anything regarding their transmissions since then?

I do think the 08 GS 350s are pretty sweet.

I personally don't think they have fully recovered, or their transmissions are as reliable as Toyota. I believe both are made by Aisin. Honda/Acura transmissions are better, they never had trouble with manuals. I do like the GS a lot. Drove a 430, that was roomy, quiet, comfortable and had a ton of power under the hood.

My lift lowered my MPG about 1.5, tires didn't really affect it. Getting 17 now. I think stock I was getting around 20. Just bought the new tires so don't want to buy another set
 
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If only the wife would let me. She absolutely won't let us have 3 cars.

Who wear the pants in this family!!!??? :becky:

Seriously, if you have the room & your driveway/yard doesn't look like a junk yard, a third car is a must for emergency's to get to work.

My GF lives with me & just got into a fender bender. While her car was in the shop getting the body fixed she took my DD, an 09 Accord Coupe to work & I've been DD my 4Runner. I would never sell this truck.
 
I personally don't think they have fully recovered, or their transmissions are as reliable as Toyota. I believe both are made by Aisin. Honda/Acura transmissions are better, they never had trouble with manuals. I do like the GS a lot. Drove a 430, that was roomy, quiet, comfortable and had a ton of power under the hood.

My lift lowered my MPG about 1.5, tires didn't really affect it. Getting 17 now. I think stock I was getting around 20. Just bought the new tires so don't want to buy another set

Honda has fixed their trans issues from the early 2000's. My 01 4cyl Accord never had an issue but the 6cyl's did. My 09 4cyl just turned 100,000 miles & the trans is just as strong as when I bought it at 70,000. I wanted the 6cyl manual but my GF cant drive stick so I didn't buy it because I wanted it to be a back up for her in case her Subaru was in the shop or something. Obviously she cant drive the T4R because it's a stick. (Not that I would let her!) LOL
 
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Honda has fixed their trans issues from the early 2000's. My 01 4cyl Accord never had an issue but the 6cyl's did. My 09 4cyl just turned 100,000 miles & the trans is just as strong as when I bought it at 70,000. I wanted the 6cyl manual buy my GF cant drive stick so I didn't buy it because I wanted it to be a back up for her in case her Subaru was in the shop or something. Obviously she cant drive the T4R because it's a stick. (Not that I would let her!) LOL

Yeah for the accords, they are better. For a brand, they still have issues. Now with the CVT.
 
My lift lowered my MPG about 1.5, tires didn't really affect it. Getting 17 now. I think stock I was getting around 20. Just bought the new tires so don't want to buy another set

Well I guess it depends on where you want to spend your money. Like I said, $5k+ to 'trade up' to the Lexus or Acura, or like $5-600 to buy new high MPG street grade tires (that you can then financially cushion by selling your newish ones on CL).

No matter how you look at it, if you do anything besides keep the T4R how it is and continue to drive it, you'll be spending some extra money.

I'm absolutely horrible at math so I probably did it wrong, even with a calculator, but it'll take something like 120 tanks of gas for the 4Runner to break even with the extra $5k+ you'll be spending on the Lexus/Acura.

Depending on what gas costs where you live, you're probably at $45-$50/week for the T4R in gas, and $35ish/week for the Lexus/Acura.
So you'll be spending $10 to 15 more a week to drive the 4Runner.
$10 to $15 x 52 weeks/yr = $520 to $780
It'll cost you $520 to $780 a year more to drive the 4Runner.

Crunching those numbers, it'll take you between 6.6 and 9.6 YEARS to break even with the extra $5k purchase price.

That's not taking into account higher insurance, any repairs necessary, or simply a higher purchase price for that 'perfect car'.

So if you're doing this to save money…..you're really spending more. At least for the first 6.5 years or so. Will you keep the car that long?
Something to think about.
 
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I've been DD the 4runner for 3 weeks now. At 38 miles each way I have to fill up every 2 days. It's not on "E" but lets say $30 twice a week = $60.
My 4cyl Honda get's filled up once a week (5 working days) @ $32.
So monthly DD the 4Runner = $240 in gas
Monthly DD Honda = $128 in gas
A $112 difference.
Full coverage insurance on the T4R is $72 a month.
So owning my 4Runner is basically free wih the gas I'm saving with the Honda.
I would never sell my 4Runner. :-)
 
3rd car is the win for sure.
Hopefully you can convince her.

I picked up a $1,200 1992 Honda Civic a while back. Most reliable car I've ever owned. And gets 40 MPG.
 
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