cb1111
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You're absolutely correct. I apologize to janitorial staff world-wide and they have far more intelligence and compassion than this guy in the "medical field".
Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.
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RichinRidgewood
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GET IN LINE! - Class Action Lawsuit Against China
US Coronavirus Victims Sue China for Billions | Newsmax.com
Rapid_Amble
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You've lost the plot.
You seem to be swept up in an us vs them, left vs right, d vs r, kill or be killed mentality.
You're not calling anyone out except a figment you've created in your imagination.
Good luck with that.
Rapid_Amble
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Per capita hospitalizations show a very skewed distribution to older populations.
Probably don't need to lock down everyone and throw healthy, able bodied populations out of their livelihoods.
Coronavirus: US hospitalizations per capita, and by age, state, race - Business Insider
Probably don't need to lock down everyone and throw healthy, able bodied populations out of their livelihoods.
Coronavirus: US hospitalizations per capita, and by age, state, race - Business Insider
Rapid_Amble
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Daily new deaths in the US have declined sharply since April 11, even though AMA, CDC, and WHO are trying to count every death as a covid-19 death.
Hopefully this pattern continues.
COVID-19: Daily new confirmed deaths, rolling 3-day average - Our World in Data
Hopefully this pattern continues.
COVID-19: Daily new confirmed deaths, rolling 3-day average - Our World in Data
Rapid_Amble
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Another observation - the focus of some people is getting personal, with all the energy pointed at someone here instead of being focused on the overall topic, and information and people in the public eye that are related to the topic.
To me that behavior signals a common response (ad hominem attacks) due to an inability to backup one's point of view, assertions, etc.
Prove me wrong :clap2:
Jetboy
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The number of hospitalizations and deaths follow approximately the same curve. Just random again right? It's already endemic in the population. Have you shared that insight with the CDC?
What happened in NYC? A bunch of people just decided to die all at once? I'll be fun they said. Let's all get ARDS and go in at the same time. Jokes on you America!
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thennen
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Glad they didn't need it after all.
Rapid_Amble
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Of course they do. All of the recorded and tracked data for positive cases, hospitalizations, deaths, etc, follow the same pattern.
How could it not? It makes sense that all of that data is a direct function and highly correlated with efforts to start testing and diagnosing covid-19 specifically.
It also makes sense that the virus started spreading back in Dec, highly likely in Nov. It spread around the world through mid-March. Mid-March is really when we started to scale up testing and diagnosis. In early March, Dr. Fauci for example was telling us to hop on those cruise shops, this virus is no big deal.
See the post earlier about sharply declining new daily deaths. Hopefully the cat's not bouncing off the sidewalk, and that trend holds. Which could indicate the virus is at the end of its run this year, along with the end of respiratory virus season.
Which means we don't know if the data we're tracking now is highly correlated or not to the actual spread of the virus and deaths. Because the virus made the rounds and we just started tracking it. For all we know, we've been scaling up testing while the virus is winding down with the end of respiratory virus season.
OH PLease! I didn't post ANYTHING to do W/Technology IF you READ it!! I said Liberals & Named the people WHO have/HAD NOTHING to do W/Technology!!!
2012sr5
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More data suggesting China’s infection numbers are exponentially higher...
“It is the party’s intent that no estimate of Chinese COVID-19 cases can be entirely convincing. Getting to 2.9M cases starts with [travel] information [of migrant outflow from Wuhan just before quarantine] offered by state media, uses the lowest available infection rate, applies days in circulation with a deliberately reduced figure to reflect a superior Chinese virus response, then stirs in the 1.39B population.
“Or, you can believe that 1.2M travelers from ground zero of a pandemic, some freely circulating for weeks, resulted in a national contagion of a little over 15,000 cases.”
The author notes that yearly respiratory infection and death rates in China could easily hide millions of COVID-19 infections and 130k deaths.
Estimating-the-True-Number-of-Chinas-COVID-19-Cases
This coming after WaPo reported data on the ground in Wuhan that suggests the actual death toll in Wuhan is probably closer to 42k-46k people.
“It is the party’s intent that no estimate of Chinese COVID-19 cases can be entirely convincing. Getting to 2.9M cases starts with [travel] information [of migrant outflow from Wuhan just before quarantine] offered by state media, uses the lowest available infection rate, applies days in circulation with a deliberately reduced figure to reflect a superior Chinese virus response, then stirs in the 1.39B population.
“Or, you can believe that 1.2M travelers from ground zero of a pandemic, some freely circulating for weeks, resulted in a national contagion of a little over 15,000 cases.”
The author notes that yearly respiratory infection and death rates in China could easily hide millions of COVID-19 infections and 130k deaths.
Estimating-the-True-Number-of-Chinas-COVID-19-Cases
This coming after WaPo reported data on the ground in Wuhan that suggests the actual death toll in Wuhan is probably closer to 42k-46k people.
Rapid_Amble
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Why are you asking me? I wasn't the one telling people in NYC to go about their normal lives, and to go to the Chinese new year parade up through mid-March.
You should ask NYC politicans such as De Blasio:
De Blasio, NYC Officials Downplayed COVID-19 Threat After Trump Restricted Travel To China. Here Are 5 Examples | The Daily Caller
Bill De Blasio Refused Major Efforts To Combat Coronavirus Until Aides Threatened To Quit, Report Says | The Daily Wire
FLASHBACK To March 3: De Blasio Asks New Yorkers To Ignore Coronavirus, Get On With Their Lives | The Daily Caller
And you should ask certain subject matter experts like Dr Fauci stating effectively the same thing:
COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy
spartacus
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Don't hate California. It's like a country with a 3 trillion economy, largest population , GDP ranked 5th in the world which also brings with it equally big issues like, poverty, homeless, crime etc California's response to covid 19 has been pretty good and they are helping other states.
Rapid_Amble
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I love CA. Has a lot going for it. Needs help in certain areas though.
Rapid_Amble
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The IHME has just calibrated their models downward again by >30%. That's like 4-5 reductions in the span of 2 weeks. Still too high.
Surgeon general has abandoned using their models, because the models are crap.
This isn't in the mainstream "news" for some reason LOL.
For intrepid explorers, search is your friend.
Surgeon general has abandoned using their models, because the models are crap.
This isn't in the mainstream "news" for some reason LOL.
For intrepid explorers, search is your friend.
Jetboy
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You claimed that covid was already widely spread. Therefore the social distancing wasn't necessary. Did you forget? Shall I go back and copy and paste for you?
Or How about that POS Nancy Pelosi:
Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco’s Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns – NBC Bay Area
Rapid_Amble
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I outlined a potential null hypothesis that could be tested. For reference, see Null hypothesis - Wikipedia
The reason i chose that hypothesis is because it would seem easier to validate or disprove, accept or reject.
Trying to figure out a hypothesis and testing it choosing a timeline after mid-march, after all the authoritarian responses kicked in, would be relatively more difficult it seems due to many more variables.
For clarity, I do think it was widespread by mid-March. It seems logical that it would be, along with all the other respiratory viruses, since everyone was ignoring it up until mid-March. How could it not be widespread?
Your view seems to be that the virus was contained in Wuhan until mid-March. That could be another null hypothesis to test and validate or disprove (the mirror of my earlier one).
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Jetboy
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First year statistics student?
I'll help with some advice for life in the real world: Almost everything they teach you in undergraduate statistics is meaningless outside of academia. Very few things in the real world that matter follow Gaussian distribution.
As for this specific instance - making up stupid tests doesn't further anyone's understanding. We know with a high degree of probability that it was not and is not wide spread already. Because - New York, Italy, etc.
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Rapid_Amble
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Trying to keep it simple.
Anyway here we go with the ad hominems again.
You're out of gas then, flailing. Like some of the others here.
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