Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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There's also the issue of your freedom ends where mine begins and how that would be enforced in a truly libertarian society.
no. my rights have nothing to do with yours. they do not intersect, and they do not "cancel each other out".

The point that the users of that analogy make is that rich pay a higher percentage of tax rate which is false. So a madeup false premise and false analogy attributed to economic experts is a lie.
yeah no. "the rich" pay the majority of all taxes collected. if it wasn't for the taxes they pay, the rest of us would be ****ed.
 
Some levity:
A suspected Covid-19 male patient is lying in bed in the hospital, wearing an oxygen mask over his mouth and nose. A young student female nurse appears and gives him a partial sponge bath.
"Nurse,"' he mumbles from behind the mask, "are my testicles black?"
Embarrassed, the young nurse replies, "I don't know, Sir. I'm only here to wash your upper body and feet."
He struggles to ask again, "Nurse, please check for me. Are my testicles black?"
Concerned that he might elevate his blood pressure and heart rate from worrying about his testicles, she overcomes her embarrassment and
pulls back the covers.
She raises his gown, holds his manhood in one hand and his testicles gently in the other.
She looks very closely and says, "There's nothing wrong with them, Sir. They look fine."
The man slowly pulls off his oxygen mask, smiles at her, and says very slowly,
"Thank you very much. That was wonderful. Now listen very,
very, closely:
"Are - my - test - results - back?" ...they will be on Monday :hatsoff::hello::banana:
 
no. my rights have nothing to do with yours. they do not intersect, and they do not "cancel each other out".

Well first, that's not remotely what I said. I certainly never said they cancel each other out. You just made that up.

As for what I said "your rights end where mine begin."
It means your freedom to live your life as you choose can not impact anyone else’s freedom to live their lives as they choose (which is one of the flaws in extreme libertarian thinking)

If you disagree with that, I dare you to come take a shit on my lawn and see how your rights end.
 
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Well first, that's not remotely what I said. I certainly never said they cancel each other out. You just made that up.

As for what I said "your rights end where mine begin."
It means your freedom to live your life as you choose can not impact anyone else’s freedom to live their lives as they choose (which is one of the flaws in extreme libertarian thinking)

If you disagree with that, I dare you to come take a shit on my lawn and see how your rights end.
is it my RIGHT to shit on your lawn? not so much.
you are without a doubt wrong. anything I have a RIGHT to do, can not EVER be taken away by YOUR rights.
 
While founded on libertarian ideals, our government/society is is not libertarian and hasn't been anywhere close to it since the days of the Wild West and even then it was only in the frontier. That's b/c libertarianism doesn't work in a society without rampant inequality - which, if you recall, our country was also founded on the ideal of equality (for white males, anyway).
There's also the issue of your freedom ends where mine begins and how that would be enforced in a truly libertarian society.

What it was and what it is is why I stated I'm not arguing either for or against it hence the Encyclopedia Britanica quote I provided showing such.
 
is it my RIGHT to shit on your lawn? not so much.
you are without a doubt wrong. anything I have a RIGHT to do, can not EVER be taken away by YOUR rights.

The other way it is commonly explained is that your right to swing your fists ends at my nose.
You're arguing about current laws. I'm discussing the philosophy of libertarianism.
There's a reason they are not the same.
 
An easy way to start weaning the US from China would be to reform the H-1B Visa system. Companies have been abusing this program for decades by hiring specialists for “temporary” work in specialty occupations by importing lower paid indentured labor for jobs that last for many years. High tech companies have been hiring foreign engineers each year in increasing numbers since the 1980s, whining that there’s never enough US citizens graduating to fill the jobs. Right.

According to Pew Research (dated material) 7 facts about H-1B visas | Pew Research Center there were less than 200,000 H-1B visa's issued in 2018. Universities, Colleges, Non-Profits, and Government research institutions do not fall under that cap, but only account for 10% (2000) additional visa's.

Since 2001 only 9.7% (171,577) total have been granted to Chinese.

Yes, there are many in IT that I have personally witnessed training their H-1B visa holder co-workers only to be laid off and the H-1B holders replaced them.

In each of the past five years, the H-1B visa cap has been reached within a week of the application period opening. The number of applications rose from 124,000 for fiscal 2014 to 236,000 in 2017, before dropping to 199,000 for fiscal 2018.

I suspect there are many more than the 200,000 (H-1B visa holders) that are undocumented non-citizen, non-visa holders working in America for exactly the reasons stated in other posts.

I went to purchase a set of summer tires and wheels for my wife's car today. One set of wheels I found that she liked were made in China, the other set she liked were made in Thailand. The Thai-made wheels were the only ones we agreed to purchase. Many times you have to look really hard to find who owns/manufactures an item.
 
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What it was and what it is is why I stated I'm not arguing either for or against it hence the Encyclopedia Britanica quote I provided showing such.

But there's a problem with that quote. The US was never wholly libertarian. No country ever has been. For example, the US had public schools even when it was founded. A libertarian would say that all education should be privately funded.
We also had a variety of public services - libertarians (in the purest sense) would argue against public services. Plus early settlers in the colonies and many of our founders were far too puritanical to have been libertarian.
 
NOt sure I f Said it here before But I told my wife never to buy Smithfield pork products again. Wholly owned by a Chinese company. There are plenty of American Pork producers!! I did not realize they have been owned by the China man since 2008 until this week when they had to close down production due to I believe 30 workers tested + for Covid-19. I am boycotting them due to the ownership!! I too told my wife when she shops for ANYTHING to try NOT to buy Chinese Mfg products!
 
NOt sure I f Said it here before But I told my wife never to buy Smithfield pork products again. Wholly owned by a Chinese company. There are plenty of American Pork producers!! I did not realize they have been owned by the China man since 2008 until this week when they had to close down production due to I believe 30 workers tested + for Covid-19. I am boycotting them due to the ownership!! I too told my wife when she shops for ANYTHING to try NOT to buy Chinese Mfg products!

Their VA slaughterhouse ships hog carcasses directly to China.
At Smithfield Foods' slaughterhouse, China brings home U.S. bacon - Reuters
 
Handy compilation of talking heads in February-March claiming the novel coronavirus is no big deal, go about your daily business.

No wonder this thing spread around like wildfire.

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Looks like it's winding down however, in spite of these grifters changing their minds late March calling for shutdowns and lockdowns.
 
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