Thanks Ron. I'm also testing to see what kind, if any traffic this spot gets. I'm pretty disappointed that more 4Runner owners are not willing to go out and take these trails. See, the greenies around here are trying to shut down these trails. There was just a huge change to the El Dorado Forest trails system (1,000 miles of trails closed) and the Lake Tahoe trails are next. They are first attacking those of us who like to drive these trails, but they also want to shut down people from even just walking/hiking them. Not many CA people know that is is being done, as unless you are involved in a 4WD group or say a ATV club, hiking club, general CA citizens are not hearing about this. I'm trying to get people to get out there and show support that we love our trails and don't want them closed. So again thank you for your suggestion, but I also had an ulterior motive!! (Oh my female mind!)