IBS Battery Management System Group Buy

[ramonortiz55]

Awesome! Also, hate to flip flop, but after talking to Sierra Expeditions I'd rather pick up an IBS system if that's still an option. Will update my previous post as to why later tonight.

Please do!

 

[J053619]

Awesome! Also, hate to flip flop, but after talking to Sierra Expeditions I'd rather pick up an IBS system if that's still an option. Will update my previous post as to why later tonight.

I'd also like to know why you'd prefer an IBS.

 

[svana]

Please do!

I'd also like to know why you'd prefer an IBS.

Updated my original post.

 

[ramonortiz55]

Updated my original post.

I am going to copy paste that post to other forums.. thanks!

 

[ramonortiz55]

I'm interested!
Subscribed :thumb:

Interested myself.
Sub'd

Sub'ed. From what I gather this is more of a universal fit and not gen specific right? And if we did the Bumper2Bumper big 3 group buy at the end of last year would those battery cables be replaced by these.

Interested

I don't know I never heard of the ibs till this post so I'll have to do some looking then let you know which one are you thinking about

Got it thanks! Personally I don't care what brand is chosen. I'm just here to get a good deal and not fined.

Debates and discussion for days over on Expedition Portal.
Both brands seem to work well and have their particulars.
I was going to build my own with a heavy duty solenoid and an in dash switch. Pretty simple system if you don't want the automatic stuff and little box with LEDs on it.
But, depending on the cost here I might be down for the ease of ordering a complete system and not having to order a bunch of individual pieces.

Looking forward to hearing more about the deal.

:banana:

Might be interested depending on the numbers. Ive been trying to find a good comparison between the two online but still haven't come across anything.

EDIT: I'm leaning more towards IBS than NL after speaking with Sierra Expedition. I spoke to them today for a little while about the general tech of the two, along with the basic pro's and con's. When it came down to it, there were a couple basic items that separated the 2.

1) The IBS system is a bi-directional system in that you could hook up a charging method to your secondary battery (such as a solar panel) and have it charge the primary battery when it's linked. National Luna is incapable of doing such a thing - you would need to hook up the panels to the primary and then charge the secondary from the primary only. Not a huge deal, but I would like to keep my primary wiring down to as many stock functions as possible.

2) The circuit board of the IBS system (the "intelligent solenoid" portion of the NL) is located in the controller of the system which will be mounted in your cab, farther away from the elements one would assume than in your engine bay. If for some reason you get hood deep in water, the NL solenoid would be fried. Not saying you wouldn't have bigger problems at that point, but just a thought.

3) The IBS hardware looks to be much more water resistant than the NL. The relay is filled with resin to provide a watertight seal. I havent looked at the inner workings of the NL solenoid to compare, only what I've seen on the surface.

4) The NL system has a much higher draw on the battery when in standby mode versus the IBS. I believe 40mA vs 1mA

5) (this one I cannot verify, this is only from his testimony) The National Luna is a much louder solenoid which supposedly has triggered the glass breaking alarm for those that have it on their trucks. Again, this isn't something I have been able to verify first hand, only from what he has told me.


This to me is where the pros of the IBS end, but it's enough to sway me in this direction I think. The main pro's to the National Luna in my opinion are as follows:

1) The monitoring panel looks more refined, the solenoid is only one piece, you have the possibility of ordering a flush mounted controller which is more aesthetically pleasing IMO.

2) You can purchase piecemeal items as needed as opposed to the entire kit. I already have battery cable, terminals, heat shrink, fuses, etc. left over from my Big 3 upgrade, and both kit's are clocking in at around $400. If I were to just purchase the controller and solenoid from NL, I'd be looking at around $250. I don't have this option with IBS.

3) The IBS system requires a separate booster relay to be installed in order to operate the dual battery system in the event that your primary battery is completely dead or fails. The relay costs about $85. It can be avoided if you manually connect the batteries, but this to me is a pretty big ding on the IBS system because I feel like this is one of the primary reasons for a dual battery system. To have to purchase another pricey piece for what I would consider a basic function leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm not sure if NL doesn't require this, but I haven't seen anything to indicate one way or the other for them.


So all things considered, I think that I would say the NL is the better value if you have parts laying around and the GB would able to cover piecemeal items, but my mentality on the unit is "buy once, cry once". Especially when it comes to a battery setup. My thought is that I'll end up spending more on the IBS when it's all set and done, but I think it'll be a better product.

I'm also interested in either.

Any word on this? My battery just died yesterday so I picked up a pair of Optimas and would like to get them installed sooner rather than later. It's sad with the DHP's getting shut down that Optima is becoming the better bang for the buck IMO.

I'm in

I'd also like to know why you'd prefer an IBS.

This kicks off today. I am now updating the OP with the numbers

 

[MN4runnerman]

[MENTION=122940]ramonortiz55[/MENTION]

I'm out I've got some doctor bills to pay. Sorry man.

 

[ramonortiz55]

[MENTION=122940]ramonortiz55[/MENTION]

I'm out I've got some doctor bills to pay. Sorry man.

Health is more important.

Take care man

 

[svana]

Can we add the RBM to our order and get the discount?

 

[J053619]

Just making sure, but this includes everything needed for the install right? (minus battery and battery tray duh)

[MENTION=122940]ramonortiz55[/MENTION], either way I'm in.

 

[ramonortiz55]

Just making sure, but this includes everything needed for the install right? (minus battery and battery tray duh)

[MENTION=122940]ramonortiz55[/MENTION], either way I'm in.

Everything shown on the link i posted in the OP.

 

[Tucson4runner]

Put me down for one please

 

[ramonortiz55]

list updated

 

[ramonortiz55]

list updated again

 

[084RUNNAH]

Sign me up for one!

 

[ramonortiz55]

Sign me up for one!

added to the list!

 

[ramonortiz55]

I need two more for maximum discount!:high5:

 

[Tucson4runner]

I know it's probably somewhere on here but does anyone know of a writeup for these in a 3rd gen? If so could you post a link so when we start getting them the info is already here.

 

[ramonortiz55]

I know it's probably somewhere on here but does anyone know of a writeup for these in a 3rd gen? If so could you post a link so when we start getting them the info is already here.

I would be interested in this as well

 

[ramonortiz55]

Can we add the RBM to our order and get the discount?

1. You can add the RBM and any other accessories and still get the discount but you must by the kit. (no discount on accesories only for existing IBS owners)



2. No IBS-DBR is available.

 

[m10karind]

I'm posting to be subbed. Was going to go with NL but I'll have to research this!